I remeber evert time my Mom or Dad did any gardening we were always asked to take the rubbish to the green spot.
Yep! Yep! , but the real green spot was down by the river, there where that little jetty is for the golf club pumps, place of attempted murder.... ah! the stories!
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So on my Saturday morning drive with the dog to the beach I took a snapshot of the real Greenspot..
and some fews down and up the river, Huh! who needs the Okavango? ;D
Attempted murder .. there was a murder in I think late 79/ early 80 ... wont mention names .. but the guys body was dumped in the river near the golf club and his car abandoned in the dumps ... is this maybe what wer'e talking about ??
NOpe , you're one was Van Eck or something , an appie was'nt it? Anyhow this one was attempted by 2 woman trying to knock a 3rd one off about 10 years back...... Love triangle type stuff I think, I was'nt there , Honestly!
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hi mike,i returned to namibia in 1975 for a holliday and got talking to an ex omunder called mark van heerden,he had two brothers called wyne and grant,he told me that his brother grant was in prison for murder in om,any truth in that?
Yes , he was, but Last I heard he was out quite a while ago!
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Ok name mentioned .. Grant .. yes he is out .. I was walking down Roodebloem road to our local one evening and bumped into him .. quite uneasy about it .. he used to hang around Sportsmans and was always sort of hanging around me , kept him at distance , just felt uneasy ,, later on in time saw him hanging out with the victim .. the rest we all know .. A love triangle in Oranjemund ?? think there were many .. working behind a bar gave one a fly on the wall aspect of things .. hey it happens everywhere just that its a small town and everybody sort of knows everybodys business ....
Sandy, there was another murder story here in the 80's somewhere, the Els kid knifing some guy in 7th ave to death... Gee! talk about the wild west! Security caught up with him in one of those tall tree's in 5th ave...
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Grant Van Eeden, ..... Remember him well. He was arrested in the Hexen Kessel if my memory serves me correctly !! We all thought he would get life. I had the hots for his sister Courtenay around that time, and recall dating her once or twice. ( Nice Chick ). I also served my apprenticeship with her other brother Mark at tech. I think there was an older brother Wayne, and a younger one called Ryan.
Their mother Faith, eventually left town after their Dad died. I think they lived in 72 - 2nd Ave, before the McCullagh's moved in. Does anyone know what happened to them all after this
it was jan smit that the els guy murdered - i worked with jan at uubvley in 83/84 - think he was a chargehand at one of the base workshops, nice guy, always smiling and friendly.
I also remember the else murder he was about my age in time, he worked for the family video hire service, not sure if it was a love thing or money thing.....i remember being very scared about that when i heard as dale becker and myself had about 2/3 weeks before that got into a fight with him and his brother......if it is the same lot.....
i met mark ,grant and wayne in 1975 or 76,they were liveing in windhoek at the time,the lived across the road from us when we were at e23/9th,and next door to cherry and coral alcock,so they were in e10th ave
Wasn't there also a Serena Van Eeden ? What ever happened to her?
Hi Claire
I see that Michael has diverted your green spot post into a murder enquiry !!! To give you an update, the green spots that were painted onto the fences to demarcate garden refuse drop points became big rusty yellow skips that were dotted around at the end of every few streets. Most of the rubbish tended to overflow or else be dumped alongside the skips ! And there were constant reminders in the newsletter not to add household waste to the skips.The one at the end of my street disappeared a while ago and the designated dump site tends to start off as a small heap at the beginning of a week and tends to stretch over several metres as people arrive from all directions with their wheelbarrows and don't want to walk the extra few steps to add their pile to someone else's. Causes havoc when the east wind blows !!
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Wasn't there also a Serena Van Eeden ? What ever happened to her?
I used to date Ryan van eden, it was his brother that murdered someone in the late 70's and it was a guy he murdered and they said it was because he was gay ... as the story goes Ryan's brother picked this unsesecpecting 'victim' up at the Sports Bar and had no idea that they guy he was drinking was was in fact gay anyway, they went back to Ryans Brother's "single quaters" ( i have forgotten which brother it was) and apparently it was a "come on" gone wrong, the victim realised too late what was happening, he was knifed ( preety seriously I am led to believe) to death over his entire body, wrapped up in a rug and dumped at the Green Spot. Ryans brother was sentenced to time in Jail and ended up stabbing a security guard (apparently) and got no parole ... the rest is history.
The Els boy was apparently in love with the wife of his victim. He worked at their video shop and had been asked to leave for various reasons, his father asked that he be given a second chance which he was and upon their return home from a holiday apparently written in lipstick on a mirror where the words I am going to kill you. Security was called and the locks where changed but apparently he was hiding under the bed all the time, crept out and stabbed the husband a few times. the wife was stabbed as well and one of the reasons she wasn't seriously hurt (so they say) was because he was in love with her.
He asked me for a light for his cigarette once and I told him that smoking woudl kill him and he replied that someone always gets killed sometime, i shat my pants and remember bumping into him down the alley way next to the guide hall and I was petrified, the last i heard Julian Louw told me he was working at a butchers.
Come come now ... No offence meant but please choose words carefully .. Murdered because you're gay ? ...If you read back to my previous posting ... I stated that Grant was hanging around the sportsmans a lot ... tried for some time to get into my personal space .. I felt very uncomfortable with it ( guardian angels maybe ? ) ... anyhow when he saw no progress . he moved on to the victim .. He was seen in the company of his his victim ( incidentally a much older and not so attractive guy ) many times before the incident .. surely a grown young man would be able to pick up signals from the other one earlier ?? further to that if there was an approach that went wrong then he had option of getting himself out of the situation - a few taai klaps and to say " I am not that sort of person .. I think you have misunderstood me " ... not to murder the person ?? From my observation the guy was lonely and yes ,, gay , and must have thought he was in " heaven " when this attractive young guy started paying attention to him and cultivating a " friendship" with him ? ???
Long and short of it is that two wrongs do not make a right ...
It is indeed a sad outcome that a person loses their life because they misread a situation .
Regarding the Els case:
he got busted stealing from the video shop till after a trap was set, and though the cops came, the very Jan Smit that got murdered got the police to not press charges, giving the kid a break. The boy was humiliated, and broke into the house one night for revenge. When Jan's wife heard something she woke him up, and as he swung his feet off the bed, he stepped on the Els chap, who was lying on the floor right next to the bed. A fight broke out, and Jan struggled with the kid whilst shouting to his wife to grab the kids and run next door. Else hacked at both of them, but Jan fought him off, and got fatally wounded in return.
That's the way Jan's wife told it to my folks.
Anyone knows what happened to the wife and kids afterwards?
Was that Dean and Jean?
Will have to ask my sister, she knows. She was in their class at the time of the incident.
Serena and Wayne van Heerden have both passed away.
Serena I think with complications after a birth and Wayne in a car accident in northern Namibia.
The rest of the family I do not know, last heard some where in Cape Town?
Richard 8)
Hey Richard, thanks for that info on Wayne and Serena. How sad. I seem to recall the incident with Wayne ( did this happen during the eighties?). Shocked to hear about Serena however. What year did this happen? This family has sure had their run of bad luck hey? Unbelievable!
Bad luck, last heard of in Plumstead area I believe.
Nicky, sorry so late with a reply - but so much to read on this site.
Wayne I think was in the 80s - happened at night a kudu went through the front window.
Serena I think also in the 80s, not to sure about the date.
Richard 8)
Hi Richard, thanks for that latest update. Very sad.
Barbara I tried to quote on other topic from here for you but but it doesn't work.
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Regarding the Els case:
he got busted stealing from the video shop till after a trap was set, and though the cops came, the very Jan Smit that got murdered got the police to not press charges, giving the kid a break. The boy was humiliated, and broke into the house one night for revenge. When Jan's wife heard something she woke him up, and as he swung his feet off the bed, he stepped on the Els chap, who was lying on the floor right next to the bed. A fight broke out, and Jan struggled with the kid whilst shouting to his wife to the kids and run next door. Else hacked at both of them, but Jan fought him off, and got fatally wounded in return.
That's the way Jan's wife told it to my folks.
Anyone knows what happened to the wife and kids afterwards?
@Johan B
Jip, that is the correct story....Security came to look for him at hour house that night as he and my brother was close friends, but he did not know where he was, only later they phoned us and told us that they found him.
Auntie Marie, Yvette and Arno
They moved to Upington for a while and then to Windhoek. She remarried to a guy named Toffie, but I think they got divorced again. Yvette, the eldest got married a few years back also living in WIndhoek, and the son Arno was studying in Cape Town. Don't know what, but we see them from time to time.
Oh his name is Dean Ells. Last that my eldest brother told me is he is living in Vredendal and is married.