While busy I saw Koos was on line .. clicked on his profile and suddenly he changed gender .. more so no search reveals the profile .. is he a spook .. a Bot or what ?? shades of the matrix ? or one of the darkk suited gentlemen ?
Thanks Sandy - I was sure Koos was a male yesterday and now he/she is a female...........I was beginning to think it was time to give Mike back his bar - but now I'm wondering if Koos is after the 'operation'!!!
Maybe Koos just enjoys the attention we give - so I think is it time to order in the popcorn and enjoy the show???
Sad to report that Koos has morphed from male to female to now a mere blip on the radar screen ... all that energy used morphing must have snuffed out the fragile life force .. Ok now who is going to organise the wake .. I feel like a party .............
He'll incarnate soon. Don't bother about the wake.
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Does anyone know why it is called a 'wake'?
Some theories / stories quite a few abound .. Apparently in the darker ages it was found that sometimes people had not in fact departed , sometimes just in coma and when interred woke up in coffin deep in the ground .. some coffins that were dug were found to have scratch marks in them form the desperate trying to claw their way out .. another .. medical technology not being what it is in these days death could not always accurately be determined so people had the hope that maybe the departed was in some kind of deep slumber or coma so they would put the body in the home and kind of live and party around to see if the slumber would be broken. ( a wake or to awaken ) . kind of turned into a tradition . to the point that nowadays we just get together irrespective and have a good sendoff .. now a sort of established celtic tradition .. some people raise their eyebrows when I say we gave a good sendoff .. stuff them .. why not celebrate that persons life at least ... I tried to turn Flo's into that as well when everybody got together at my home afterwards .. it was only the hard core that remained that got into the swing of a mini wake ...
Sandy, a history buff also..... My biggest fear is to wake up in a coffin six foot under...... I read those stories about how excavated graves had scratch marks inside the coffins as the supposed dead tried to escape their final fate....... perhaps this is the true meaning of hell?
No I will retrieve from my saved quotes and life lesson file ( stuff that I keep if it talks to me ) this ahs a good rendition of hell .. possibly post tomorrow cos I think its stored on PC atwork and I not done updates lately .... will post it on this topic so watch for it ........
Somehow I was kinda expecting the 'scratch marks' on the coffin answer - and even though I don't doubt for a second that in times gone by people were indeed buried alive and tried to scratch their way to freedom; in the majority of cases - I believe those marks actually represent the organs imploding and subsequently exploding thus leaving the scratch like marks that in turn led to wakes..........
mmmh! Is that a fact or a Guiness induced theory?
Ripleys believe it or not!!! I have my inteligent head on tonight and I do believe it is a fact....
We explode fireworks1
In that case I better remember to consume a mountain of beans before I die.....
I think our organs explode after a period of time - does it sound feasible that parts of us ferment (stomach) as we decay??? I don't know but it certainly makes a better theory than being buried alive and trying to scratch our way out...
I think Koos is 'Mike Alexander when the lights go out' ... He has a split personality and doesn't even know that when he logs off and finally creeps into bed, out comes Koos :emot98:
Good theory, the only downside to that , is that Koos,s IP address is in Cape Town......
Doesn't Kenny live in CT too?
Ja, but i'm hoping that there is a mountain between them at least.....
But maby he moves from one side to the other for login purposes... :buffo9: callme
@ Mike here is a good version of hell ... and of course the alternative if one learns to help ones fellow man .. the moral of the story fits so well into so many of todays scenarios
Literally, food for thought!
A holy man was having a conversation with the Lord one day and said,
"Lord, I would like to know what Heaven and Hell are like."
The Lord led the holy man to two doors.
He opened one of the doors and the holy man looked in. In the middle of the room was a large
round table. In the middle of the table was a large pot of stew, which smelled delicious and
made the holy man's mouth water.
The people sitting around the table were thin and sickly. They appeared to be famished.
They were holding spoons with very long handles that were strapped to their arms and each
found it possible to reach into the pot of stew and take a spoonful. But because the handle
was longer than their arms, they could not get the spoons back into their mouths.
The holy man shuddered at the sight of their misery and suffering.
The Lord said, "You have seen Hell."
They went to the next room and opened the door. It was exactly the same as the first one.
There was the large round table with the large pot of stew which made the holy man's mouth
water. The people were equipped with the same long-handled spoons, but here the people were
well nourished and plump, laughing and talking. The holy man said, "I don't understand."
It is simple," said the Lord. "It requires but one skill. You see they have learned to feed
each other, while the greedy think only of themselves."
It's such a simple step.
It's what I was refering to in the Topic Zimbabwe. This includes everybody. Also the people of Zimbabwe. If they have no idea or will to help themselves, what should the weat do? Throw bombs? Killing innocent?
May sound arogant. But it's meant to be philosophil.
hey Sandy this brings to mind my understanding of why the habit of chopping off hands in some countries (Islamic) as a punishment for being caught as a thief, is not only to make it more difficult to steal with one hand but because it makes the offenders reliant on others to feed them.
The hand that is removed is always the eating hand, the other hand is the wiping hand and cannot be used in a communal dinner.
Either you get fed or become self sufficient, making your own food and eating on your own.
something like that, anyone know if this is correct, Patricia maybe.
Never thought of that way.
thought it was additionaly a form of branding.
I liked that story Sandy - food for thought
I would imagine its a form of both ,, branding which ostracises them in society , and yes indeed they would be reliant upon somebody else to feed them , however the thread of the story i posted had to do with greed , imagiine a greedy selfish person getting that punishment when they pass on .. if one went into the theory that in each life we are supposed to learn something then that soul would either have to learn not to be greedy or face the same punishment over and over ..
On the subject of Islam and the exchange between Georg snr ,Patricia and some others in one topic I forget had to do with the way muslim communities literally demand to be treated specially in other countries etc etc ... I will add only my 5 cents in that I find it amazing how that religious grouping can always be so "sensitive" they go inot a froth whenever the prophet is insulted and they seem to be totally intolerant of even balanced comment never mind open critique .. have you in these days seen the pope or any other religious leader declare a war or put a death warrant out on someone for critiscising their religion or making a movie about it or reporting on abuse ??? that was stuff of the middle ages .. so yes I remain bemused by this behaviour ,, I accept that generally it is normally the 5 % that are so extremist that generally push this middles ages way of thinking , but then alarmingly so it also appears to be growing , and a form of fundamentalism is growing .. I see more and more women totally covered up here in CT and it is alarming .. my mind boggles , how could a woman allow herself to be " imprisoned" like that .. closing comment is my opinion that such extreme behaviour and lashing out is a form of " immaturity of ones faith " cos if ones belief and faith is strong then nothing said or done can divert you from this faith , in fact having this self confidence of faith would allow one to just go on practising this faith without " injury" Oops I have gone from 5 cents to 5 $ ...
I know what you're saying Sandy. But I think some muslims see it as part of the religion to "protect" Allah with their lives. Strange to me.
Yes Georg ,, and so we remain bemused .. I could not subscribe to a faith that asks me to sacrifice my life and does not allow me to question ..
Why has Jnr gone shy???
I've always been shy. Do you only realise now?
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You're right Sandy, there are a lot of contradictions in their religion that just don't make sense to us 'immoral souls'. A non-muslim is not allowed into a mosque and we're not even allowed to touch the Koran because we are 'unpure'. We are destined to go to hell because we don't worship the Prophet. As for the black abaya and veil worn by women, they say that most women choose to wear it ... well, I do have several muslim female friends and have yet to meet one who confirms that. They are forced to dress that way by their fathers, brothers, husbands ... and the main reason being that men can't control their sexual desires in front of a woman. She is an object made to satisfy men!
I don't want to generalise, as I do have some really great muslim friends that are like family to me, but unfortunately, my 11 years in this region has allowed me to learn a lot about this religion and their culture.
Not sure whether any of you have read the Jean Sasson books. She lived in Saudi Arabia for many years and wrote about a Saudi royal princess's life. It's easy reading and I'm sure that the book had to be 'pre-approved' before it was released, but they do give some insight on the life of muslim women.
Great to hear your opinion Patricia. Is there more?
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Get back into your casket Koos, the sun is out vampire
Thats the other part of the intolerance ... from what I understand they woud not be turned away from any mainstream church ... we are impure ?? its a form of " apartheid" relegating non muslims to this category , thats how they got around the slavery issue , its forbidden in Quoran yet they traded .. simple "they are impure , infidel, therefore lower than us ", take it one step further .. subhuman . bang and you can trade cos the prophet gave you dominion over animals ..
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What are you stuck to . .
Koos, you enigmatic, cuddly, little animal - you are going to be traded off it appears.
You had better be a stud for breeding purposes, or else ......... halaaled Koos on braai
I'll open the bid on Koos..........say R10.00 - Anyone other offers?
R 10 for a blip ??
That blip might transform into some-thing wonderfull; I'm willing to take the risk
If you've got him, how will we entertain him then?
george jnr i see you on the forum 24 hrs a day.
when do you sleep.
no matter what time of day or night i log on. you on the forum.
you definitely addicted.
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Hey! Just noticed your name isn't . it's .. Sorry for the spelling further back.
24hours? Somebody has to watch out on you. If you see me 24 hours a day, then you must be on 24 hours yourself???
Quote from: Patricia Lotte on April 08, 2008, 04:13:09 AM
Get back into your casket Koos, the sun is out vampire
sun out , you must live in japan, did not know we had any japaneses members on this forum.
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I'm 2 hours ahead of you guys down south and the sun is up by 6am (4am your time)
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Quote from: Patricia Lotte on April 08, 2008, 04:13:09 AM
Get back into your casket Koos, the sun is out vampire
sun out , you must live in japan, did not know we had any japaneses members on this forum.
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... you see I'm keeping up.
I see our Koos has trnsformed into 3 dots now ....... ooooooo the suspense.
The dear sweet man has grown quite fond of us seems to be online and posting more and more. e154
I don't know about Boy Georg,but I often forget to log out so it may seem I'm online all the time.When you get to my age you tend to forget things or repeat yourself.
If you're logged in, but not active, you cannot be seen. You're kicked out after 15 min. So you're only seen if you come around now and then to read and write.
That's something you do when addicted... It's like not being able to forget to breath...
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No other bids, hey? Does that mean ... formely known as Koos is mine???
I go to bed and find I'm still logged in later the next day idontknow
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No other bids, hey? Does that mean ... formely known as Koos is mine???
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Straight back at you - e154
Uh Oh ! Rhona .. Do I see a romance blossoming here ?? well some parts of Ct are without power so maybe Koos is also sitting by candle light and feeling a bit romantic .. By the way Koos welcome back from blipland .. currently without power at the moment .. thank goodness for charged laptop and candles ...
Just playing nice Sandy - after all he belongs to me now
Quote from: Diana Rudd (Boehme) on April 09, 2008, 06:29:31 PM
I go to bed and find I'm still logged in later the next day idontknow
Okay. You have the option of being logged in forever. Just logg out before turning your PC off. When you start anew, you'll be asked to logg in and you're given the option of logging in forever. As soon as your out of your OM software, you're not seen on the site anymore. But if you start the site your automatically logged in again ... and seen by the others. Ehhh! Okay? It's late....