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Title: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: Michael Alexander on June 05, 2008, 09:00:30 AM
Ok...for you rugby hounds...Saturday is the 1st test match of the year in that beautiful town of Bloemfontein..... who are you backing, the Dragons or the Boks? WHats yer score? Where you gonna watch this test?


Springboks 33  Wales 23

I'm gonna , I er...was going to Pauls house , but er... Uhm, I guess I will light the fire at my house now....

Ever noticed that Boks are BARNATO?
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: Dalene Steenkamp (Coetzee) on June 05, 2008, 09:24:36 AM
Gonna watch the game at home  -  (got 2 lekker pofadders ready)  -  but I'm not going to make any predictions about this game.  Sure, the boks are Barnato!  That's why we support them - we Barnato lot!  I hope they can pull it through .....
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: Michael Alexander on June 05, 2008, 09:34:32 AM
Those rhodes lot must be Green with envy now.....
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: bobbysmith on June 05, 2008, 01:04:31 PM
BOKS 35,SHEEPSHAGGERS 15
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: Bertie Horak on June 06, 2008, 04:21:16 AM
BARNATO 25  -  RHODES 17 !!!

Watching at home.  In theater from 7h30 am, struggling with wisdom teeth, then nice afternoon of rugby and of course a bit of meat on the coals and Namibian milk (beer).
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: georg ruf jr. on June 06, 2008, 05:40:38 AM
I hope you're not talking of your own teeth Bertie
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: Bertie Horak on June 06, 2008, 08:06:35 AM
No thanx, I prefer to be on the other side of the sharp stuff!
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: Dalene Steenkamp (Coetzee) on June 06, 2008, 10:52:54 AM
By this time Bertie should be able to do this wisdom teeth procedure with eyes closed, so I don't think the patient would mind too much if they overstayed the theatre time and started watching the game while Bertie tries to bang out the bothering buggers.  Just wonder what the hospital sup would say when he finds and empty bottle or two of some giggel sous under the op table  -  Bertie gonna blame the gas man  -  "I dunno -  his job the keep the patient under, don't care how he does it."

Did anyone listen to the comment on RSG this morning about the Bok team? 
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: bobbysmith on June 06, 2008, 10:55:45 AM
darleen please share the comments for us omunders in the uk,many thanks,awaitaing to hear them,cheers bobby
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: Bertie Horak on June 06, 2008, 12:50:17 PM
Yes, please Dalene, I didn't hear it either?
Regarding the theater, no Dalene, the sisters there in theater are big and strong - wont take a chance like that.  Anyway, the floating gases in the op theater is enough, dont need any alcohol to potentiate the effect!
:buffo1: quickdop
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: Carl Wrbka on June 06, 2008, 12:58:55 PM
Hi Bertie, do you guys still use nitrous oxide like in the old days? I guess thats why Dentists are such friendly people...lol

Call me unpatriotic if you will, but I cant see us beating Wales tomorrow. My prediction is a low scoring match, with Wales winning by a margin of less than 3 points.
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: Bertie Horak on June 06, 2008, 01:08:40 PM
No laughing gas in theater, it will be full general anaesthesia.  I warned the patients NOT to go watch the movie "AWAKE" before the weekend!
Regarding the rugby, hope you're wrong!
:36_8_1:
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: Carl Wrbka on June 06, 2008, 01:15:50 PM
Did you see Carte Blanche last week? I think they'r trying to create a mountain out of a mole hill. Any anaesthatist would be able to detect if a patient has woken up a bit prematurely by seeing the rise in stress levels on the monitoring machines.
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: Bertie Horak on June 06, 2008, 01:30:28 PM
Yes, i did.  Quite scary, but you're right, it's easily detected if monitored correctly.  I had a patient once (on April fool's day 2006) with a similar problem.  He suffered from what we called "Scoline apnoea" - some people dont have the enzyme to break down the muscle relaxant which is given with the anaesthetic, so they wake up, but cant move a muscle!  This guy's blood pressure shot through the roof within seconds, was sweating profusely, and was definitely in distress.  We had to keep him sedated, for it took 6 hours to work out of the system in stead of the usual 30 minutes.  There's no antidote.  Thankfully he's ok, and all's well.  He thinks it was a joke, but believe me, I almost had a heart attack from stress myself!  Six months later, the parents phoned - to have his sister's wisdom teeth removed under GA.  I felt I could send them away!  She fortunately didn't have the same problem!
We're drifted off the subject!!!!!  Sorry guys, wont do it again!
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: Dalene Steenkamp (Coetzee) on June 06, 2008, 01:44:14 PM
Regarding RSG this morning  - 

The comment was about what PDV had said about it now being the first time in the history of SA Rugby that fair justice is done by picking 8 players of colour and that this was the only way to show the rest of the world that our sports also represents the "balanced" proportions of race in the country  -  sort of regardless to wether the team should do good an win.  Round no. ?  in the political arena?
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: Michael Alexander on June 06, 2008, 01:47:08 PM
Is'nt there anyway of testing for Scoline apnoea, before you use it on a victim?
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: Bertie Horak on June 06, 2008, 02:34:08 PM
@ Michael - You can test for the presence of the "choline esterase" enzyme and the likes, but it's seldom done.  Don't know why - probably expensive or difficult or takes too long. There's often a familial tendency, so if someone in your family had such a reaction, the anesthetist can play it safe by using a different form of medication.  As far as I know though, they're not so effective, and I've heard of reactions with the others as well.  So, I guess you'll never know before the time.

@ Dalene - Dankie!  Just another round of politics yes.  Would be interesting to read the papers on Sunday.
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: Carl Wrbka on June 07, 2008, 06:51:35 AM
Either way, the headlines will be sensational, depending on which way the newspapers swing. If we win, it will be a case of  laughpoint from the pro government papers. If we lose, watch Super Rugby next week. It's gonna be good.
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: Michael Alexander on June 07, 2008, 08:15:08 AM
I see on Keo that the stadium has only sold about 20 000 tickets......
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: Bertie Horak on June 07, 2008, 10:01:21 AM
It's going to be an interesting afternoon.  Just hope it will be an exciting game.  According to Die Burger this morning, they reckon the ref will be hard on the whistle, especially in rucks and mauls regarding offside, diving over the ball, preventing the opposition to get to the ball, and using hands when on the ground.  Just hope it's not just all penalties and no running rugby!

@ Michael - I spoke to the anesthetist in theater this morning regarding the test for scoline apnoea.  He said it's probably too costly and will indeed take more time.  Also unnecessary pain to the patient - you will need muscle tissue in stead of blood to make a positive diagnosis.  Apparently there's 2 kinds - one with slight delay in reversal (takes 30 min's instead of 10 minutes) due to recessive gene combination, or a dominant gene form where it takes up to 4 hours to reverse the drug in the body.
I think I'll just put my trust in the doctor and anesthetist, rather than having pieces of muscles taken to make sure!!!!
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: Carl Wrbka on June 07, 2008, 10:19:27 AM
Sounds safer that way. Just now they decide to remove the wrong muscle...eina!
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: Bertie Horak on June 07, 2008, 01:51:23 PM
If anybody's interested, the half time score is:  SA 22 - Wales 10.
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: Carl Wrbka on June 07, 2008, 02:00:19 PM
Correction. That should be SARFU 22 - Wales 10.
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: Bertie Horak on June 07, 2008, 02:55:00 PM
Final score:  Bokke 43  -  Wales 17.
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: Michael Alexander on June 07, 2008, 03:00:05 PM
 sobored  WHat a boring game... I thought...... But I am not a John Smit fan...but he played well today......... It makes me sad to see all those ex freestaters playing in Bloem again....
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: Cherry (Alcock) on June 07, 2008, 03:15:48 PM
2nd rate Welsh side - pity for the six nations champions.  Not a great game but Jean de Villers' try a beauty.  No matter - we won so let's be proud of that in a country wallowing in misery economically.   congrats fireworks1
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: Carl Wrbka on June 08, 2008, 05:51:35 AM
I'll second that. By the way, what happened to all the newcommers? I saw 1 or 2 on the field. The rest were the boks from last years RWC.
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: Michael Alexander on June 08, 2008, 06:45:58 AM
Lets hope Loftus draws a bigger crowd next saturday!
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: bobbysmith on June 08, 2008, 10:10:22 AM
this mite smack of sour grapes and all that but the only good thing out of wales ,is the road,WALES---WHERE MEN ARE MEN AND THE SHEEP ARE NERVOUS 15_3_27
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: Carl Wrbka on June 08, 2008, 01:34:03 PM
 :emot19:  Good on yer Bobby. I presume u'r referring to something like this?
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: bobbysmith on June 08, 2008, 01:37:11 PM
protocol admired,same colour,like it image14
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: bobbysmith on June 08, 2008, 01:41:22 PM
what possition in the springbok team does that guy play ,to sattisfy the political correct brigade,maybe loose head prop,inside centre,or could even be the flanker,the mind boggles hey
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: Carl Wrbka on June 08, 2008, 02:05:48 PM
Looks like fullback...lol :emot19:
Title: Re: Springboks Vs Wales!
Post by: bobbysmith on June 08, 2008, 11:31:59 PM
skop die bliksem