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Title: A German braai.
Post by: georg ruf jr. on August 10, 2008, 03:24:50 PM
As I promised a long time ago Mike, I'd be posting a "German braai" some day. Well here it is.
I used cherry wood, because it was all I had.
Now, what I want to hear is, if there's a difference to the SA or Nam version.
BierSuip 36_1_72
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Clive Symes on August 10, 2008, 06:44:14 PM
JA, where's the BOEREWORS
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Diana Rudd (Boehme) on August 10, 2008, 06:57:55 PM
the SUNSHINE and the CHEVY???
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Clive Symes on August 10, 2008, 07:10:02 PM
Diana, Georg is bragging about the Cherry wood. ( I thought it was "George Washington" that chopped down the cherry Tree)

Wher's the good old DABERAS hout
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Patricia Lotte on August 11, 2008, 03:07:31 AM
Where are the chops boet ???
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: georg ruf jr. on August 11, 2008, 09:32:16 AM
Quote from: Clive Symes on August 10, 2008, 06:44:14 PM
JA, where's the BOEREWORS

Hahaha.
German braai, Clive. We eat Bratwurst.
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: georg ruf jr. on August 11, 2008, 09:36:41 AM
Quote from: Diana Rudd (Boehme) on August 10, 2008, 06:57:55 PM
the SUNSHINE and the CHEVY???

We had sunshine. lol But it's already geting dark.
I think there's only one Chevy in town. Not to popular in Germany. Price to high and needs to much petrol. Perol costs about 1,45 - 1,55 Euro per litre.I think thant's about 13 - 14 Rand per litre.
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Clive Symes on August 11, 2008, 08:56:50 PM
JA , don't get me started on the Bratwurst, makes me think of the Mule Derby sausages that Micky Resche used to serve up
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: DUNJA WRBKA on August 15, 2008, 12:56:45 PM
Hey Jnr, just interested to know for how many people  all that  36_1_72 meat was for ?  Because back over here that would be for ±4 people.    202
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Paul Alexander on August 15, 2008, 01:28:36 PM
Or in Mikes case, just one... and a starter at that!!!!!
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Michael Alexander on August 15, 2008, 01:50:07 PM
... and were are the blerrie Skilpaadtjies?

laughpoint
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: georg ruf jr. on August 15, 2008, 02:43:59 PM
Quote from: DUNJA WRBKA on August 15, 2008, 12:56:45 PM
Hey Jnr, just interested to know for how many people  all that  36_1_72 meat was for ?  Because back over here that would be for ±4 people.    202

4 adults 3 kids.
There was more o go. lol
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: georg ruf jr. on August 15, 2008, 02:44:26 PM
Quote from: Paul Alexander on August 15, 2008, 01:28:36 PM
Or in Mikes case, just one... and a starter at that!!!!!


laughpoint BierSuip laughpoint 202
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: DUNJA WRBKA on August 15, 2008, 04:58:18 PM
Jnr, is meat still VERY expensive over in Germany?  Remember when we lived there in 1986 that we had the smallest Pork Chops and the tiniest of "worsies" to  braai...  Yikes theres nothing like a braai to make you homesick for SA!!!  Guess its the fact why we only lasted 8 months and then we were on a plane back to SA...

Back home and loving it !!! cat3

love(1) AFRICA!
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Diana Rudd (Boehme) on August 15, 2008, 08:04:23 PM
A German Braai in Cape Town and that was for 4 people.
Moved pic from Derby sausages
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: DUNJA WRBKA on August 16, 2008, 04:50:27 AM
 23_11_61

Yeah can see that there was more than 2 sausages per person over there Diana...  faceinfood   202
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Carl Wrbka on August 16, 2008, 05:33:21 AM
Good to see you actually found a braaier to braai on. When we lived in Bavaria back in '87, such things were scarcer than a  pole-small in Baghdad. As they say, 'n boer maak 'n plan. We dug up a patch of the flowerbed in front of our apartment and had a good old OM beach braai. The grill rack from the oven worked very well, as did a couple of bricks to keep it up.


Of course the neighbours thought  23_146_26.    Diese verdamten Auslaender... 202 
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: georgswa (Georg Ruf) (RIP) on August 16, 2008, 05:36:17 AM
@ Dunja

I see jnr has not replied, so short from me

Yes meat was always more expensive here, of course taking the exchangerate in account, its even more for you.

Prices differ also, pending on the shop where you buy.

Have a nice weekend
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: georgswa (Georg Ruf) (RIP) on August 16, 2008, 05:40:23 AM
@ Carl

Thats right, no tolerance for Braii smoke, in fact in city not permitted at all

Jnr is better off living in a village with own garden, no problem there

On my place no fires allowed, high concentration of flats. on the balcony not tolerated by the neighbours
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Carl Wrbka on August 16, 2008, 05:46:49 AM
It must be terrible. I understand the population density plays a huge role, as do the stricter environmental laws you guys have. We lived in a small village where everybody more or less did their own thing, so we werent bothered too much by the strict legislation.
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: georgswa (Georg Ruf) (RIP) on August 16, 2008, 05:56:06 AM
Got used to it by now....

Occasionaly i use the electric grill for a chicken roast or saussages, already that smell may be off problem, but i dont care since its not often like we dit in O-mund up to 3 times the week

People dont grill any more over the open fire, so what do i need a fire for ? heat is enough.
I prefer the meat from the fire, taste is better, but supposed to cause cancer, that may be the high rate of cancer in O-mund  idontknow
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: DUNJA WRBKA on August 16, 2008, 06:01:14 AM
Yes I agree, nothing nicer than a piece of Rump Steak or a nice Lamb Chop thats been cooked on an open fire .. hmmmmm  Yes believe cancer is an issue but like I said in another post... EVERYTHING IN MODERATION!  feedme
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Carl Wrbka on August 16, 2008, 06:35:40 AM
The cancer problem lies in the burnt bits on the meat. The solution: First  36_1_72  then   BierSuip
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: georg ruf jr. on August 16, 2008, 11:19:59 AM
Quote from: DUNJA WRBKA on August 15, 2008, 04:58:18 PM
Jnr, is meat still VERY expensive over in Germany?  Remember when we lived there in 1986 that we had the smallest Pork Chops and the tiniest of "worsies" to  braai...  Yikes theres nothing like a braai to make you homesick for SA!!!  Guess its the fact why we only lasted 8 months and then we were on a plane back to SA...

Back home and loving it !!! cat3

love(1) AFRICA!

Pork chops cos between 5,oo and 7,00 Euro per kg. Sometimes more.
Sausages: 4,00 to 10:00 Euro. Depends on the the filling.
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Bertie Horak on August 17, 2008, 08:42:37 AM
Regarding the braai meat issue, I'll be posting a new topic on this with my thoughts.
@ Carl - Ok, you might have a point - just see to it that the drink is red wine to help with removing the bad chemicals from the body! cheers
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Carl Wrbka on August 17, 2008, 09:34:12 AM
I read somewhere that the burnt bits contain the carcinogens. Similarly, the smoke created from the fat hitting the coals also contains trace elements of carcinogens. What a pity, because one of the best things about a braai is when somebody else is having one, and the odour drifts over in your direction.
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Michael Alexander on August 19, 2008, 01:45:28 PM
I bought meat from Jip n Jol in The Somerset Mall whilst in CPT to braai.... I have never rated the Cape Meat compared to the Namibian stuff.... the following pkt of Wors was smothered in SPice, cannot taste the meat.... The Pork belly tastes like too much water.... but I have to admit those ribbetjie things were damn nice.....

Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: DUNJA WRBKA on August 19, 2008, 04:49:09 PM
Well perhaps buying meat at Pick 'n Pay is not such a good idea to begin with.  I once bought a whole chicken, which was huge and was ± R58.  This was to feed 4 people but by the time it had finished cooking it looked like an anorexic chicken, which was only good to feed 1 1/2 people.  The chicken was injected with so much water, which all ended up in the oven dish by the time the cooking process was over.  Have never really gotten quality meat at Pick 'n Pay and would prefer to go to a butcher.

Just my 2 cents worth ...  ha ha
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Ineke Brunner on August 19, 2008, 05:43:18 PM
we built ourselves a "binnebraai" outside. Now we can always braai if we feel like it (it always rains in holland) We even braai in the winter. (just when we need that South African feeling) I buy my choppies at a turkish butcher. Much cheaper and very good
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Bertie Horak on August 19, 2008, 05:50:10 PM
@ Ineke - I guess one will go look for a tjoppie anywhere just to have that feeling of a braai back home!
36_1_72
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Ineke Brunner on August 19, 2008, 06:47:28 PM
that's right, but (like the germans) the dutch people hate anything like smoke coming from a braai. I am not very populair here, (onlu because of my braais) haha They will rather sit inside the house watching tv. Now that is something i never new as a kid, so if i have to make the choice..... It is easy. The braai with the wors and the tjoppies. haha
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: georg ruf jr. on August 19, 2008, 06:56:03 PM
Hi Ineke.
Yes, I'm German. I know what you're talking about. My neibourghs are great and never complain. It's more my wife and kids that complain about me wanting to braai so often. lol
Nobody complains about the smoke here. Bu I know, there are towns and ereas where laws are aken very serious. You're only alowed to braai a cerain amount of imes wthin a monh or so. Don't know how often, but I may find out.
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Ineke Brunner on August 19, 2008, 07:05:41 PM
i am glad that it is not so strickt here. My neighbours complain sometimes, but in the evening they all go inside to watch the tv and we stay outside. We even have two heaters for when the braai itself is not enough. Great i must say. Luckaly for me my husband is just as cracy about braaing as i am and the kids. They all love skaap tjoppies (lamb) We at least braai three or four times a week during the summer. Before the rugby match in france we had a braai with every rugby fan we new and then watched the match. that was great fun because a south african friend of mine,who stayed in germany, also came to watch at our place.
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Michele Alexander (Voden) on August 19, 2008, 07:07:03 PM
It's a good think they don't have those kind of restrictions here in O'mund - Mike would have left years ago!

36_1_72

Me personally - hate the smoke and smell of the braaied meat but what can I do - got to keep the peace!

Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Ineke Brunner on August 19, 2008, 07:10:23 PM
you miss it the most when you can't do it anymore and when the real thing changes. Once they forbid you to braai you will start liking the smell and smoke. But you have the sun and that makes a big diffirence.
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Michele Alexander (Voden) on August 19, 2008, 07:20:36 PM
I don't know about the sun at the moment - it was here for a while today and then the mist rolled in - it's quite cool here at the moment.

I'm not a meat eater so don't enjoy the smell of the meat but love all kinds of veggies cooked over the braai - I was hoping Mike would be able to braai some mielies on the braai for us this evening but unfortunately we had none at Spar!
Had to do with Garlic bread and sousboontjies!

Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Ineke Brunner on August 19, 2008, 07:28:38 PM
if i make sousboontjie here they all just look at it and tell me to eat it myself. The mielies they love, but in holland they do not always have mielies. they are very expensive. I am the real meat eater and the kids and my husband as well. What they love the most are my toasted cheese on the braai with onions. Do you still do that in south africa?
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Michele Alexander (Voden) on August 19, 2008, 07:32:07 PM
Yes - we also love the toasted sandwhiches on the braai, there are so many variations, the other day we were at a braai with some Afrikaans friends and they put apricot jam on the bread as well! Different. Another favourite of ours is filling gemsquash with creamstyle sweetcorn and grated cheese and wrapping it in foil and cooking them over the fire - our Afrikaans friend also does it with mussels - very nice. Mike also once did a butternut stuffed with feta and spinach - that was my favourite!

Mike is obviously a very big meat eater and both girls love their braaimeat as well, whilst in Cape Town last week their favourite was ordering spare ribs!

Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Ineke Brunner on August 19, 2008, 07:51:13 PM
thanks for the braai tips. will try them. I wanted to send you a foto of our braai, but it was too big. They computer gave an error and i am no hero with computers so you will have to wait for that foto. I'm sorry because i am so proud of our little South africa in our garden. We even have a south african flag hanging in there. Keep the braai tips coming. We can't make everything as we cannot buy everything here. Like the butternuts and skorsies. whould love to have them here. hahaOne can't have everything.
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Carl Wrbka on August 20, 2008, 06:20:05 AM
Quote from: Ineke Brunner on August 19, 2008, 07:28:38 PM
if i make sousboontjie here they all just look at it and tell me to eat it myself. The mielies they love, but in holland they do not always have mielies. they are very expensive. I am the real meat eater and the kids and my husband as well. What they love the most are my toasted cheese on the braai with onions. Do you still do that in south africa?

From my experience in Germany in '87, mielies are considered as pig food in most EU countries. Our neighbours thought we were nuts when they saw them on our braai.
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Michael Alexander on August 20, 2008, 07:32:18 AM
Mielies , Aromat and Butter wrapped in tinfoil..... and Bob's your uncle!

:ciupa1:
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Bertie Horak on August 20, 2008, 07:50:07 AM
Mike, add a little sprig of Rosemary, you'll be amazed how it enhances the sweetness of the mielies!
PS - it's my duty to warn you about the high MSG content of aromat.  I know it's a great taste enhancer, but try normal salt & rosemary, you'll be amazed!
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Dalene Steenkamp (Coetzee) on August 20, 2008, 09:28:13 AM
The Ina Paarman Rosemary & Olive seasoning is a stunner and contains no MSG.

Quick recipe for toasted buns on the braai:


6 buns
250 g grated cheddar cheese
1 pack Ina Paarman sundried tomatoes (the type in olive oil and belsamic vinegar with basil)
1 small tin mushroom pieces (drained)
250g margarine
1 small onion chopped
Seasoning to own taste

Mix all the ingredients together.   Cut buns to choise & smear with filling.  Wrap in foil and braai .......
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Bertie Horak on August 20, 2008, 09:45:26 AM
@ Dalene - Sjoe nammies!  Jy maak my honger, girl!  Gaan beslis probeer.

Regarding the MSG controversy - if there's enough interest, I have a lot of info regarding MSG (dangers, which foods it's hidden in, alternative names under which it is hidden, etc) I will post it under a new topic.  Let me know, I'll have time over the weekend to post.
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: georg ruf jr. on August 20, 2008, 10:06:29 AM
What does MSG stand for? Is it Natriumglutamat?
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Ineke Brunner on August 20, 2008, 10:46:57 AM
Thanks Dalene
I'm going to try those buns. Sounds great.
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Bertie Horak on August 20, 2008, 10:49:08 AM
@ Georg - Yes, same thing, I think that is the German version.

MSG stands for Mono-Sodium-Glutamate
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Rhona on August 20, 2008, 08:12:08 PM
@ Bertie - please post a topic on MSG
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Clive Symes on August 20, 2008, 08:33:19 PM
Last Braai befor leaving Oranjemund
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Bertie Horak on August 21, 2008, 03:28:47 AM
Ok, Rhona, will do so this weekend!  MSG coming up!
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Michael Alexander on August 21, 2008, 04:45:27 PM
@Clive, I see Frankie at your braai, but pray tell, where Was I?

ha ha
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Clive Symes on August 21, 2008, 06:27:10 PM
Now if you could split yourself in two, you could be in two places at once
36_1_72     BierSuip
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Michael Alexander on August 21, 2008, 07:02:28 PM
But....But..... er..... back then...in the day.... I was almost your neighbour....only about 6 houses in between......

sorriso2
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Clive Symes on August 21, 2008, 07:10:13 PM
If you were busy     policedog-small   you could have dropped in     feedme
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Michael Alexander on August 21, 2008, 07:11:59 PM
Never saw the braai smoke.... bloody hedge was in the way....... At times I think you even turned the music down when you saw me approaching....just in case......  image201  image071
Title: Re: A German braai.
Post by: Clive Symes on August 23, 2008, 10:52:16 PM
 image281 braii braii image24

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