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Title: America .. economic crisis ..
Post by: SandyB on November 25, 2008, 07:16:56 PM
What  fascinates me .. America .. had the Mortgage meltdown  with a domino effect ..  basic result of  reckless lending  where equity eventually  was overtaken by the debt  cos the model of the house  prices always rising fell to the ground ..  they make the  kak and  well we introduced our NCA etc to try help protetc our citizens ..  I recall when i was in a bit of a tight squeeze some years ago  .. equity far exceeded the problem but my bank wouold not budge ...  and yes its a good policy .. only  is still the offers of  credit cards and personal loans ...  anyhow  theoretically the $ should have plummeted ..  not so  .. the rand fell against the dollar  ..  apparently something to do with oil  supporting the dollar..  mmm take the  oil away from the dollar and they f..... d .. anyhow in the usual bits of junkmail that somehow  seem to slip through  I got this .. I was gobsmacked ..  no wonder they got financial problems that make ours look  like a walk in the park ..    only  people that get cars in this country when  bankrupt  are the likes of JZ and  the connected .. ha  ha ...
Title: Re: America .. economic crisis ..
Post by: SandyB on November 29, 2008, 07:58:56 AM
Got a few more of the above  in my mail ..  Prevent bankrupcy ,, etc etc .. all basically  debt restructuring  via a mortage ( not much chance with the  meltdown  affecting house prices ) .. only way that could ever work is if the provider of the rescue loan cut up all the  borrowers credit cards .. cos what most people would do is just go on ahead on a  spending spree again .. its  what someone refered to as rampant consumerism ..  the  percieved need to have the latest new TV ,, game player , cellphone , Hi fi .. car .. clothes , jewelry .. bling .. lifestyle ... champagne taste on beer money ...
Title: Re: America .. economic crisis ..
Post by: Michael Alexander on November 29, 2008, 03:25:40 PM
This always fascinated me, they ain;t ever gonna get outta this one\


Here's the link:  http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/
Title: Re: America .. economic crisis ..
Post by: SandyB on November 29, 2008, 03:32:36 PM
Wonder if there is a clock for SA ?? and if so where do we stand ??   and what is the acceleration rate  if so ..
Title: Re: America .. economic crisis ..
Post by: Michael Alexander on November 29, 2008, 03:38:15 PM
If there was a clock for ZA, somebody either pinched it or.... it runs on electricity from Eskom......... which in that case means it won't be keeping pace.....

:buffo9:
Title: Re: America .. economic crisis ..
Post by: SandyB on November 29, 2008, 03:53:54 PM
 ha ha  good one .. stolen or  slowed  down or blown  due to  power drops or spikes ...   but seriously ... I mean we introduced the NCA last year  and from my readings in the papers  it is having  a slowly  improving positive effect ..  and in fact  between   some  rigidity in our exchange controls and   the NCA  we in SA  largely  not  hit too hard by americas folly  excepting   the  rand still looking like gaai  to the dollar ... as said take  away the pegging of crude oil to the dollar and see what happens ???
Title: Re: America .. economic crisis ..
Post by: Michael Alexander on November 29, 2008, 04:03:01 PM
Well, I for one never liked the exchange control acts... I mean , if that is your savings and you want to emigrate to Outer Mongolia in the middle of winter and take your 1 million rands worth of kruger coins with you, then so be it...you should be allowed to and not restricted to 250 000...... And how does this protect us, the rand hovering around 10.00 bucks to the Yankee Dollar..... what happened to 7.00 to the dollar?   They reckon that currency pirates hit emerging currency';s every few years and you better hope and pray that the local treasury has enough foreign $$$$$$ to bail it out......

I believe when 2010 gets here, we should see 6.50 to the dollar, with all the foreign currency flowing in for the world cup, unless somebody steals that also....
  23_146_26
Title: Re: America .. economic crisis ..
Post by: SandyB on December 08, 2008, 07:37:40 PM
What a foolhardy nation ... thank g...  for our  NCA ... and yes some exchange control ,, far more relaxed than  in the dark years , has  been a bit of a buffer  ...  and yes we should be taking advantage of their panic, buy sell mentality .. and  our stock market should not follow theirs .. what is it fashionable to all go inot panic simultaneously ???  ape ... more junk mail today from the good old  US of A .. they in some sort of meltdown yet this crap carries on... ?? HUH !!   credit cards offerd to suit  your own self inflicted  state of  domestic financial dissarray ... ???
Title: Re: America .. economic crisis ..
Post by: SandyB on March 10, 2009, 07:01:28 PM
Reading the paper tonight .. David Biggs mentioned last night that he was going to visit a daughter in Canada soon ,, he related some of the differences between canada and America ... one being they  have always  had a conservative economy  and are  not being shaken  as badly as America and the rest of the world .. he posted tonight that  canada  has right now one of the most stable enonomies ... america  40th on the list .. England  44 th but believe it or not  SA  14th ... so yes we will be affected   but not as badly .. sadly our currency does not reflect the stability , but so what  it outs  us in plum position to export ...  well tats if the rest of the world is in a postion to buy ..   see how O'mund is affected by the  drop in  demand for diamonds >>  so  lets all hang in  here on the  tip of africa ... 
Title: Re: America .. economic crisis ..
Post by: toonfandangl on March 13, 2009, 07:12:42 AM
Sandy Michael.

I was reading your posts on the financial crisis, you were showing an advert for (basically) people with no money
or assets.
That they were able to contact the company and buy anything they wanted.
We have identical products as they like to call it enticing people to enter into these contracts.

Its called 'FINANCE WIZARD SAYS YES' depicting a married couple, two kids standing by a new house
and the keys to their new car.

I don't no how they get the money out of them (hound them for the rest of their lives) but I know the interest rate
they pay to these people is a lot higher than the ordinary banking systems

You were saying 10 to1 American dollars if you google (xe currency) it gives a table Canada is 5th Australia 6th
and RSA 10th.



Title: Re: America .. economic crisis ..
Post by: SandyB on March 13, 2009, 08:29:51 PM
There are  so many variants to  assessing a county's  economy ..  suppose a liot could be  smoke and mirrors as well .. it still beats me hoe the U S of a dollar has not plummeted .. but then OIL is pegged to the dollar ...   we should go back to the old fashioned  currency linked to GOLD ..  and then see what happens .. but yes  conservative  policies are better in the loing term .. and yes i keep on getting the  junk mail  from USA ....
Title: Re: America .. economic crisis ..
Post by: toonfandangl on March 23, 2009, 01:39:05 PM
SANDY.................................. drinking-41



MONKEY  BUSINESS

Once upon a time a man appeared in a village and announced to the villagers that he would buy monkeys for $10 each.

The villagers, knowing there were many monkeys, went to the forest and started catching them.  The man bought thousands at $10 and, as supply started to diminish, the villagers stopped their effort.
He then announced that he would buy monkeys at $20 each. This renewed the villagers efforts and they started catching monkeys again.
Soon the supply diminished and people started going back to their farms. The offer increased to $25 each and the supply of monkeys became so scarce it was an effort to even find a monkey, let alone catch it!


The man now announced that he would buy monkeys at $50 each! However, since he had to go to the city on some business, his assistant would buy on his behalf.
The assistant told the villagers, "Look at all these monkeys in the big cage that my boss has already collected. I will sell them to you at $35 and when my boss returns, you can sell them to him for $50."
The villagers rounded up all their savings and bought all the monkeys for 700 billion dollars.
They never saw the man or his assistant again, only lots and lots of monkeys!


Now you have a better understanding of how the
WALL STREET BAILOUT PLAN WORKS !!! 

It doesn't get much clearer than this........ ha ha