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Title: Karl Marx ... a visionary ???
Post by: Patricia Lotte on February 12, 2009, 04:54:05 AM
Karl Marx- 1867, said!

"Owners of capital will stimulate the working class to buy more and more expensive goods, houses, and technology, pushing them to take more and more expensive credits until debt becomes unbearable.

The unpaid debt will lead to the bankruptcy of banks, which will have to be nationalized and the State will have to take the road which will eventually lead to Communism."



Title: Re: Karl Marx ... a visionary ???
Post by: Michael Alexander on February 12, 2009, 05:08:37 AM
Thats interesting, I never knew that, but then why did so many of these socialist states collapse....
Title: Re: Karl Marx ... a visionary ???
Post by: SandyB on February 12, 2009, 02:44:41 PM
You  cant  run a country on ideology  ,, fine  ideas  dont feed  tummies  ..   you cannot  have all " equal " as the  communist system espoused  ,, you always ended up  with  some  more  " equal" than the other ...  it  removes peoples will to  improve themselves , and anyhow it only suited those in power or those that got rewarded for  toeing the party  line , and also enforcing it ..  Communism  ran  its  course  although you still got  the  tunnel vision  supporters ... its actually just their platform for power ..
Capitalism is   although flawed and not perfect  is  the  most  reasonable   system  if   people would  just learn by their mistakes , also not fall  victim to greed  .. and  yes  not  fulfill  Karl Marx's  prediction  by their very actions ..

BELOW THE  STORY  I HAVE POSTED BEFORE ON GREED

Literally,  food for thought!
A holy man was having a conversation with the Lord one day and said,
    "Lord, I would like to know what Heaven and Hell are like."
    The Lord led the holy man to two doors.
    He opened one   of the doors and the holy man looked in. In the middle of the room was a large
    round table. In the middle of the table was a large pot of stew, which smelled delicious and
    made the holy man's mouth water.
    The people sitting around   the table were thin and sickly. They appeared to be famished.
    They were holding spoons with very long handles that were strapped to their arms and each
    found it possible to reach into the pot of stew and take a spoonful. But because the handle
    was longer than their arms, they could not get the spoons back into their mouths.
    The holy man shuddered at the sight of their misery and suffering.
    The Lord said, "You have seen Hell."
 
    They went to the next room and opened the door. It was exactly the same as the first one.
    There was the large round table with the large pot of stew which made the holy man's mouth
    water. The people were equipped with the same long-handled spoons, but here the people were
    well nourished and plump, laughing and talking. The holy man said, "I don't understand."
    It is simple," said the Lord. "It requires but one skill. You see they have learned to feed
    each other, while the greedy think only of themselves."