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Well here goes.....Leon Sumter very kindly sorted and scanned my grand fathers photo's.
Attention Clint Ebstein   Leon has them in a higher resolution so you can contact him if you are interested in any. All are of E Bay except those marked Kolmans.

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I think this is the last......I see you there Leon   3d smiles(281)

OOOps last 2

Thanks Diana

Glad you kept those pictures for us to see

Would be nice if you send me the original sizes, could make a presentation of that

Speak to my friend Leon...... 202

Leon is watching this topic,

Hi Leon could you send the original size picture, will mak a paresantion of that
Thanks Georg

Wow Diana - that is some serious history you have there!  I'm sure the museum would appreciate permission to use them?

That is impressive..... this is what it's all about ... the history....


thnx

Hi George
The complete folder is 27.2 Meg so I will have to e-mail it to you in smaller chunks of pictures at a time. I shall do this over a period of time.
Leon

Thanks Leon in advance, i look forward to the pics

My email adress: see my profile

Georg

Georg, you should have them all by now.
Enjoy.

Thanks a lot Leon, i save them and see what i do with it

When the presentation is done i will post it here

Georg

Great stuff ...

Well well Diana very interesting photo`s..........this area is so beautiful and desolate and to see how the people operated in the olden day is amazing.Thanks for sharing it with us.

@ ALFRED     Pic 29 the guy on the motor bike is your grand father .

are there anymore?

Quote from: Diana Rudd (Boehme) on March 22, 2009, 07:24:08 PM
@ ALFRED     Pic 29 the guy on the motor bike is your grand father .

That looks like a BMW 500cc

 idontknow  Daddy Georg
@ Michael there are a few more. Don't know how relevent they are, Leon chose the best ones. I will look when I get the albums back from him.

Alfred your Grandad Paul is also in:
pic 17 extreme right,
pic 20 on drill press,
pic 21 front row 2nd from left,
pic 22 arms folded
pic 31.

Great pics Diana and Leon. Should be thinking about starting a scrapbook and putting all these historic photos into book form. Would make an amazing presentation in hard copy which could be paid for out of book sales.
Best wishes
Gordon

The pics as a slide show and music

http://georgswa.ning.com/video/kolmanns-boeme

Tip: If it stops running ( buffering ) place the mouse over the picture, pop up allows to press pause button

Wait 1 minute or more and start again.

If you want that video in full size, let me know, i can transfer to you via Skype

Went through the photos properly today, so must has changed since then. Will have to go and check out the spot.

Wow Daddy Georg.....That video is amazing, found myself getting all sentimental here. I never new my Grandfather as he passed away in his 50's before I was born. To think that was 80 odd years ago. I can't wait to show my Aunt Inge what you have done with these photo's. I watched it on "full screen" and was amazed at the detail you don't pick up looking at the "little" photo.
Thanx so much.
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Wow! Georg, I got it right, the tune in the background makes it all seem so depressing, a lost era..... gone forever..... pioneers in the Namib..... this is really good stuff...Thanks Diana, Leon and Georg, stirling work!

Clint when you go and check out Elizabeth Bay see if you can track down Grandpa Boehme's cottage. It may be one of the 3 closest to the old workshop. It may still have the little picket fence at the left of the front door.

Diana hi, did your grandfather ever write any memoirs of his life? My late dad fortunately did and I was able to track down where he lived and where he went to school and where the family went to Sunday Mass, when I went to visit Casablanca (Morroco)  2 years ago.

Leon...I must have a chat with my Aunt Inge she remembers a lot.
When we publish our book we'll have to have a special Book signing evening for the forum peeps.   msn emoticon (9)

Hi Leon

Great pictures. If possible I would like to get copies of the original sizes as well.  I will be in Oranjemund in May and would love to grab a CD of the photos.

Malcolm

I have been back to the original spot where the train workshop was and have taken photo`s, will post then later on

Great Clint

Malcom, I am actually situated in Cape Town, but I can load them (with Diana's permission of course) onto CD and mail to you.
Clint also has a copies of the photo's in 600dpi resolution.

I tried to get the angles right. The train workshop area

The once upon a time train workshop spot

Clint, bloody marvelous. 80 years apart, awesome, incredible the exact same spot, Hey Diana and Alfred is this not eerie.
Keep it up Clint, you're our man on the spot.

Where do you think the little hospital is with the sunny enclosed porch where it appears e/buchters convalesced after illnesses and injuries.

Hi Leon the hospital was at Kolmanskop I don`t know of one at Ebay

I will post the old plant, casino and house later, it is know mineral time

Hi Clint

Those pictures would make a nice addition to Diana´s pictures

I would need the original sizes if you would send them to me please
Thanks

Georg

oh I thought there was a hospital/clinic at e/bay, yes it probably was at Kolmans. I see Paul Boehme also had a spell in this hospital.

When you say mineral time I take it is of the drinking variety?

No not the drinking variety, I am talking about the rock type. I am a mineral collector(rock hound)

Here comes the rest

and more

Sorry lost count that is most of them. Special photo img_4849, old Ebay village with modern Ebay plant in the background

wow, keep going Clint.

sorry no more pics, any special requests

To think......wow...I don't know....eerie as Leon says.

Clint next time you go down there see if you can find Diana's grandfather's house.
See attached picture with background to rear at right as a pointer/clue.

I'm really surprised that the HISTORY channel or the likes thereof have not yet made a documentary on the history of the Sperrgebiedt..... this stuff is awesome....

Hi Leon here  are the 3 houses as indicated on the gogle map `Elizabeth_Bay_Google_Grandpa's_house_workplace` which one

What can I say but - BRILLIANT GUYS!!

This is what the forum is all about History....man...History!

Diana are these the photographs I have always bugged you about to arrange a sit down with your aunt?

Keep them posting guys!

The "Keep to the Topic Guy"
Richard

Yes Diana post more

Please Diana, more..... some of you other Auld buggers should also have a few ye olde snaps lying around...... get scanning and get posting....

Those are them Richard. I'm not sure If there are anymore that are relevent. Leon you still have the albums .....are there????

Hi Diana
The photos that I have scanned and put on the OMD w/site are the only ones really relevant to E/Bay and Kolmans.

Hi Clint
If you study the old photograph of Grandpa's house carefully you will notice that the corner of the house lines up with the left corner of rec club building and the train workshop. If on the google earth view you draw a line from the workshop to the rec club then it looks like the left house of the three must have been Diana's Grandfather's house. So when you go down there again stand in front of each of the three houses and you will soon be able to determine which of the three houses is grandpa's house. My bet is that the leftmost of the 3 houses is the house. Also there should be the remains of a small flower bed and picket fence at the foot of the wall to the left of the front door.
Leon

I would just like to thank Leon,Clint and Daddy Georg for their input regarding these photo's. These are personal photo's of mine and have been laying in my dresser for years. To me they were just my grand fathers photo's much like all the family photo's I've claimed. (I just love old photo's). Now that they've been put into perspective it has almost brought him alive to me. He passed away when my dad was 16 so I never knew him. I find it quite eerie that those houses are still standing 80years later, and he actualy lived in one of them. So besides being of historical interest to you guys its been quite something for me.
Daddy Georg your video is wonderfull.
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Too true Diana ,, you lucky  to have that history ...  Kolmanskop and early days diamond 'royalty "

Princess Di to you my friend  202 

Ja ok  ok  princess ..    I bow  curtsy  .. kowtow .. anything you  want ...   

Clint
Can you also check out where picture  30.jpg was taken from in e.bay. Seems to be a swimming pool? or dam of some sorts down at the jetty or somewhere.

will do

Hi Leon had a quick look at the area photos, things don`t add up will have to check the old plant photo etc. might take some time

Thanks Clint.
There are quite a few more clues in that old photograph, such as the steep gradient of the ground to the rear and right and the roof eave of the house to its left. I am trying to figure what building that is to the rear on the right. Its too small to be the rec club.
Yes do this in your own time, I'm just so curious to solve this mystery.

A couple more......
Daddy Georg you can translate the first 3 pics.  Hope its not love letters to another mans wife or something like that.

Translation, dont worry Diana all above board

The top writing

Explains about the picture

Photograph taken from the sea. The small one of the large Buidings is the locomotive hangar.
The large build. is the diamond washing
The small shacks - are one man pontocks, we called it the chinese quartes

The arrow indicates where i lived

Next Writing

The picture dit not open for me
Top says falsh light photo made at night

Here it is now

A Flash Light Picture taken at night in the forgerie workshop
Next to me my Benjamin ( jungest) The other boy 18 years old, it is not my son he is from a collegue

my second son is still scared of the machines

You can cut me out of the picture cause i am staring to much


Next one

On the tunnel with a fellow ship passenger that is also landed at CDM

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@ Diana
Nice pictures
I put the translation in the post with the written messages

Can not open them all.....very small

Good pics ...

Once again, I am blown away by the pics...Clint...is'nt the shortcut up from the Orange to Ai-Ais along the Konkiep River? I see the one station in the pics says Konkiep!!!!!  idontknow

No that station is at Goageb Mike......great pics Diana don`t forget the hi-res pics for Clintie

I have them on high resolution Clint. If Diana gives me the go ahead I shall e-mail them to you.

Thanks Leon for text pics

I have put the translations directly in the post

Diana please please can I have high res photo`s from Leon.

Pic 7  with the  seal  pup   cute ...

Clint
Can you also check out where picture  30.jpg was taken from in e.bay. Seems to be a swimming pool? or dam of some sorts down at the jetty or somewhere.

Ok here we go pic 30.jpg is the sea water intake area check the attached aerial view of the area and my comments. The area has changed alot since then because we are using the area not like the old houses etc.

I think those pictures are also worth a presantation

Send me the original sizes and i will do it again Leon or Diana ???

 allgood ....Leon send photo's on to Clint and Daddy Georg.
and thanx once again for doing them for me. 

Thanks Diana and Leon.......I must do Kolmanskop

Quote from: Clint Ebstein on March 29, 2009, 09:49:08 AM
Thanks Diana and Leon.......I must do Kolmanskop

Hi Clint, please let me have them so i include that too, original sizes please thnx

Hi Georg will do just remember my originals sizes are all bigger that 2mb

Hi gang

Clint and Georg I have sent you Diana's second batch of digipics in high resolution. Thanks so much Diana for making these precious and interesting photos available to us.

Clint I would like a high resolution version of the arial e/bay water intake pic.

Quote from: Leon Sumter on March 29, 2009, 12:18:47 PM
Clint I would like a high resolution version of the arial e/bay water intake pic.

Me too please

Thanks Leon

The pictures hav all arrived

I wait now for the aireal views from Clint then i make the presentation

Its a pleasure. The arial shot is a lovely photo showing all kinds of other buildings and what appears to be two rows of some fancy homes as well.
The 'washery' the 'train shed' and a third large workshop? is also visable, wonder what this building was?

The 2 Presentations from the Boeme and Clint Ebstein archives
Enjoy those historical photographs of days gone by......


http://georgswa.ning.com/video/kolmannskuppe-elizabeth-bay

http://georgswa.ning.com/video/elizabeth-bay-2

(http://www.ontheairtv.com/uploads/thumbs/pcYHRKmh0obZpcmrSBtV.jpg) Watch "Elizabeth Bay" (http://www.ontheairtv.com/play.php?vid=1927)

Videos from my travel there

(http://www.ontheairtv.com/uploads/thumbs/GCLmxVDDCoNJXmSgvI1K.jpg) Watch "Luederitz Africa Safari 3" (http://www.ontheairtv.com/play.php?vid=1772)


(http://www.ontheairtv.com/uploads/thumbs/DJPORXvd2rJY1sKSTUFQ.jpg) Watch "Kolmannskopp Africa Safari 4" (http://www.ontheairtv.com/play.php?vid=1773)

Just thought I'd bring this topic forward again...seeing as though there's so much interest in the area at the moment. I've enjoyed reading the recent posts in the other topic.

thanks Diana , I spent very a most enjoyable hour looking at your Pics.  somehow I missed the topic in the past  . May I use some of your pics to add support to Mariannes memories in another topic about Kolmans , e.g church and trees ?

Of course you may. I love reading about this and find it all so fasinating. I kinda imagine myself living back then and what it must have been like.

Alfred and Diana. The picture of your Grandfarther on the motorbike. BMW -  Look at the attached pic of a  restored motorcycle - It will put a date to the model your oupa had

Wow....Thanx. 

did people plant trees in Luderitz. it looks quite barren from the air - 1970

Pretty barren still.... I was told that the soil is either rock or to soft for tree's to take root...

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/Blick_von_Felsenkirche.jpg/300px-Blick_von_Felsenkirche.jpg)

pencil scetch Luderitz harbour 1980

Diaz Cross from a painting 1487 . 2 Diaz cross 1980 - before the fog horn was blown away by a severe Atlantic storm , 3 . early picture Diaz cross . note there is no hand railing . 4. The old cemetry . most people burried here died in the two influensa epidemics - 1903 + 1905
5 . A plnt we called "desert beads.  I do not know the correct name for it . Some botanist can come to the rescue .