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Title: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Charmain Meier (Heusdens) on August 27, 2007, 03:28:52 PM
During the sixties and seventies the apprentice intake had a ritual.  The youngsters gathered on a predetermined date at the single quarters  The booze to be consumed on that specific day was placed in the sun.

The older guys got stuck into these youngsters hair, shaving it off to their heart's desire.  After the different styles were cut and a lot of booze consumed the appies had to go to movies.  The front row of the movie house was reserved for them.  Those were the days when Mike Benade and John Irish used to work at the Technical College.  Come on Clive Symes, you should have a lot to tell.

Is this tradition still going strong or not?

Charmain Meier (Heusdens)
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: bobbysmith on August 27, 2007, 03:39:31 PM
hi charmaine,my dad did dickie fits about the rituals,he had to teach the upstarts the monday following,we as kids had many laughs about who got who,poor guys,made men out of boys,the truth be known,i dont think the guys resented it one bit,take good care,hope to speak or email you soon,love bobby
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: SandyB on August 28, 2007, 11:02:36 AM
The  appie  initiation  .. ouch !  a  fatal  brew  called  dag en nag .. sweet  red  and white  mixed   and  left in  the sun .... I  nearly  died  that  day  ...  worse  apart  from  cutting  elaborate designs in  ones  hair  you  were  smeared  with  mechanics blue  and  old  engine  oil ..  I  remember  through  the haze  that I  was  in  a  state ..  the  senior  appies  got  worried   that    I  was  indeed  going  to  expire  ..  got  me  cleaned  up  and  took me to  the mess  for  something  to  eat  .. I  recall   slurping  some soup   when  my  dad  arrived  to  collect  me  ... I quietly   followed  him  trying  to  keep  a straight  line  and  promptly  walked  straight into  the edge  of  the  door  he  was  holding  open for  me ...  down  again ..  now carried  to  car ...  My  mom  had  fits  at  my  total  state  ..   I  had  a  hangover  for  3  days ...  anyhow  the  designs  were  cut  out  of  the  hair  turning  me into  a pan kop  ..  her remedy  was  to  every  night  rub  coconut  oil  into  my  scalp  to  encourage  growth .. the skinhead  look did  not  go down well  with her ...  however looking  back   ...   the initiation was  part  of  the  rites  of  passage ,   made  us  all  equal  and made one  a  part  of  the  club   ...
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: SandyB on September 06, 2007, 12:47:54 PM
with  reference  to My  last  posting  on  the  appie  traditions ...  the pankop  and  my  Mom  rubbing  coconut  oil  onto  my  shaven  head  each  night  to  spur on  the  growth   and  get  rid  of  the  skinhead   effect  ..  attached  picture  shows  a  very  unhappy   pimply  16  yr  old  me  with  the  shaven  head ..  good  for a  laugh  ...
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Clive Symes on September 06, 2007, 06:19:36 PM
Sandy , Charmaine
Some where I have photos, disgusting events as some of the appies made space for more booze. There are faces you will all remember. Sandy if memory serves, and your mug shot reminded me, I think you star in one of them ( fortunatly the photos are stored in the Attic in a box I dont remember.

Ja the older appies used to say if you could down a bottle of Liebies (23cents) or Zonheimer ( 25cents) in under six seconds they wouldnt shave your head. Needless to say they lied. By the time you got round to down your bottle you were well on the way and 30 minutes after the bottle was downed you couldnt care less.
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: SandyB on September 07, 2007, 06:57:09 AM
Oops ! i star  in  one  or  two  of  them ?  burn  the attic  and its  contents  ..  I  remember  seeing  one  of  the  making  room  pics .. i  was in  one  of  the  bath  sofas ( remember  the  cutout  bath  with  cushions ? )   and  streaming    a  pinkish   liquid .. not  pretty ...
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Charmain Meier (Heusdens) on September 07, 2007, 03:49:53 PM
Clive

I'd love to see your pics!

Charmain
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: SandyB on September 08, 2007, 09:05:58 AM
Burn  the  attic  and its  contents  ... I have  vague  memory  of an  equally  bad  appie  party ...   in  the  years following  we would  attend  and  watch  the  event , making  sure  to  park  your  car far away in  case  somebody  drained the  sump  for  some  dirty oil  to "dress"   the initiates .. by that  time I had  progressed to  the  3rd hand  125  yamaha ..Ian  first , Gus   next , and  then  I  inherited it ... I  did  the obvious  overconsuming ...  after the  party  roared  off  on  the  bike  .. Peter  Reshke  told  me  that  they followed  me  to  try  make  sure  I got  home  safely ..  well  it took a  long  time  to get  home  as I  was  kind  of  lost  in  the  alcoholic  haze  and  kept on  driving around  town .. what was  amazing  he said was  that  I did  not  crash  or  kill  myself  as  I  was  bouncing    on  and off  the   road  mounting  pavements  yet  not  once  did  me  and  the bike  topple  .. i was  kind  of  glued  to  the  bike  and  the  bike  to  whichever  surface   I happened  to  be  travelling  on ...   felt  very  skaam  when  I  was  told  the whole  story  on  monday  morning ...
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Clive Symes on September 08, 2007, 11:30:30 AM
Sandy, you are safe ( I do see you remembered the " Jet stream" I know it was captured on highseed film, I remember the lumps but  would not have been able to tell you the colour, you've obviously got a good memory ( I know I was'nt right for days after my initiation)

On the Side, I was sorry to hear about Ian ( we were in the same class at school)

Please drop me a line with Peter and Sandys contact number, its ages since my Mom heard from them.
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: SandyB on September 09, 2007, 09:25:55 AM
Clive  .. Peter & San ... 021 7128042  ...  San  mentions your  Mum  and  If  I recall  has  invited  her   around  at  times ...
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Clive Symes on September 09, 2007, 07:18:25 PM
Thanks Sandy, I will contact them just to say HI
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Diana Rudd (Boehme) on January 17, 2008, 06:13:34 PM
Here's Reiner to join you Sandy  (with the traditional hairdo)
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Diana Rudd (Boehme) on January 17, 2008, 07:56:47 PM
Oops that would be Rainer Siebers before his coin collection
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Michael Alexander on January 17, 2008, 09:50:30 PM
Hahahaha... Reiner looks mean, like a kinda Vinnie Jones.....

laughpoint
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: SandyB on January 18, 2008, 07:39:03 AM
Come  come now .. we  need  more  pics  here ... I will even  allow  Clive  to  post  the  one  of  me  in  my  worst moments ...  Guys  ..  scratch around  ...   scan  and  contribute !!!
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Diana Rudd (Boehme) on January 18, 2008, 08:23:49 AM
To true Sandy,lets bring these older topic's to the fore again     abouttime
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Diana Rudd (Boehme) on April 20, 2008, 07:54:16 AM
Here's the topic you all on about under "Bioscope"      Quickly before Richard comes online and nails you all........Stay with the Topic. 
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Michael Alexander on April 20, 2008, 07:56:14 AM
That's what I have been trying to do, especially for the newcomers.... once a week , I head on down to the cellar of this forum and dig out an old topic, add a line to it and shoot it back to the front of the forum, I thought you guys would have cottened on by now........   feedme
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Diana Rudd (Boehme) on April 20, 2008, 09:09:48 AM
I've done that on a couple of occations but no-body takes any notice they think I'm crazy to push a topic forward. There is a lot of interesting topics down there that would liven up the forum again. Please don't tke offence anybody 'cos I'm just as guilty to posting trivial poop.
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Michael Alexander on April 20, 2008, 09:12:55 AM
I just don't like going down there, it's cold and damp... and the candle keeps blowing out........!
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: georg ruf jr. on April 20, 2008, 10:14:13 AM
Quote from: Michael Alexander on April 20, 2008, 07:56:14 AM
That's what I have been trying to do, especially for the newcomers.... once a week , I head on down to the cellar of this forum and dig out an old topic, add a line to it and shoot it back to the front of the forum, I thought you guys would have cottened on by now........   feedme

Tried that a couple of times too Mike. Doesn't realy work.
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Mike Stenson (RIP) on May 23, 2008, 07:06:46 PM
Mike Stenson and Malcolm Aitken ( goofy) after appie haircut ( 1978 )
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Michael Alexander on May 23, 2008, 09:08:20 PM
Hahahaha... Mike , now I know why you grow a beard...

I just received this photo from John Creedy, Appie days in the 60's , note the similarity...
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: SandyB on May 23, 2008, 10:14:57 PM
Keep  them coming ...  I'm having a laugh .. Clive .. dig in the attic .. we  need my emptying  pink flow picture  ...
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Michael Alexander on May 24, 2008, 07:43:51 AM
Surely there must be more people like John Creedy, who have more of these era photographs stashed away in a box somewhere, please email or post them to me, either scan them or post them to me at the below address, I will scan them and return them to you..... My address is Mike Alexander, PO Box 641, Oranjemund, Namibia.

Here are more of John's Appie pics....
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: SandyB on May 24, 2008, 09:13:29 AM
My  Boet  Ian  middle  row .. # 2  from  the  right
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Diana Rudd (Boehme) on May 24, 2008, 10:41:39 AM
 bravo  great stuff
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Robert Bruce on May 24, 2008, 04:53:34 PM
Quote from: SandyB on May 24, 2008, 09:13:29 AM
My  Boet  Ian  middle  row .. # 2  from  the  right

...and he looks so chuffed with the world and being in the appie group photo..!!
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: SandyB on May 24, 2008, 06:51:33 PM
Stirring the grey cells now  .. back  row   #4 from the left looks  like  Jacob Kruger  ??
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Diana Rudd (Boehme) on May 24, 2008, 07:25:46 PM
Sorry that does not look like Jacob to me, would have thought he was about 1970.
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: SandyB on May 24, 2008, 07:34:22 PM
same age grouping as  Ian .. they all used to fish together down at the river .. dont forget younger .. we all change a bit  or  sometimes a lot .. depends ..
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Diana Rudd (Boehme) on May 24, 2008, 07:35:50 PM
 idontknow    Jacob 56 now.    Don't hit me Jakes.
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: goofy on May 25, 2008, 07:28:24 AM
i REMEMBER THOSE DAYS WELL REINER SIEBERS (POPS) STILL CUT MY HAIR. IF YOU DIDNT HAVE A HAIR CUT IN THOSE DAYS YOU BECAME A NOTHING. REMEMBER WE VIRTUALLY RAN THE TOWN IN THOSE DAYS. IF SOMEBODY ASKED IF YOU ARE PLAYING THE ANSWER WAS YES EVEN THOUGH YOU DIDNT KNOW WHAT SPORT YOU ARE PLAYING, I HAVE EVEN PLAYED NETBALL IN A DRESS. MY MOM CAUGHT A COUPLE OF US SKINNY DIPPING IN THE POOL ONE NIGHT AND WHAT DID THEY DO WELL THEY WENT OFF WITH ALL OUR CLOTHES, NOW IMAGINE GUYS AND GIRLS RUNNING TO THEIR VARIOUS HOUSES NAKED. HECTIC
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Chris Macpherson on May 26, 2008, 06:25:21 PM
 :emot19: :emot19: boobs boobs arse arse
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: georg ruf jr. on May 28, 2008, 11:27:02 AM
seams like Chris watched the incedant.
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Paul (Pepe) Freemantle on June 19, 2008, 01:15:27 PM
How could I ever forget that. I was unfortunate they chose the date of my 18th birthday.
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Leon Sumter on September 13, 2008, 08:32:45 PM
Yes Jakes Kruger was with my 1970 apprentice intake, along with Charles Blakemore, Charlie Badenhorst, Keith Gass, Alwyn Huisamen and others.
Leon Sumter
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Leon Sumter on September 13, 2008, 09:07:42 PM
I have attached a photo (in .rar format) I hope of us (1970) with our shaven bald heads.
Leon.
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Leon Sumter on September 13, 2008, 09:17:25 PM
Photo in my previous post:
Seated at front: Mr Olivier (Nickname gasgat for whatever reason?) Engineer ??
Standing second row:L-R: ?, Mario Dixon, Paul Selby, Keith Gass, Alwyn Huisamen, ?
Standing 3rd row: L-R: Colin Dunster, Mike Davis, Andre Hanekom, ?, Horst Kirsten, Frans Wenzel.
Standing last row: L-R: Charlie Badenhorst, Charlie Blakemore, Leon Sumter, ?Meiers?,

Charlie Blakemore was waiting for his school results so his hair was not shaved at this stage.

Leon
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Leon Sumter on September 13, 2008, 09:24:22 PM
BTW. Where is Reiner Siebers these days folks? Remember how well he could sing the popsongs of the day. Had a younger brother too, cannot recall name.
Leon S
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Michael Alexander on September 14, 2008, 06:25:18 AM
Reiner is living in neighbouring Rosh Pinah, comes to town about once a month..and will be here for the Reunion.......   woo_hoo
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: SandyB on September 14, 2008, 06:36:23 AM
Why not in  jpeg or some or other  format             ??
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Michael Alexander on September 14, 2008, 06:49:27 AM
Here we go...Leon's pic in Jpeg and resized....

Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: SandyB on September 14, 2008, 07:01:03 AM
Thanks ...
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Leon Sumter on September 14, 2008, 10:41:31 AM
Hi Sandy

Unfortunately my .jpeg scan file was too large, that why I compressed it into .rar, but thanks Mike for doing the technowhiz on this file. Still have not had the time to figure how to  change my scanner setting to a smaller dpi.

Sandy bring me up to date concerning Ian?

Go well.
Leon
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: SandyB on September 14, 2008, 11:00:22 AM
Leon ,  Ian passed  away  Feb 18th  last year ...
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Clive Symes on September 14, 2008, 11:23:12 AM
Back row Fourth from the right in the previous gtoup photo is Ronnie de Lange, also deceased.
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Leon Sumter on September 14, 2008, 01:25:09 PM
My sincere condolences Sandy.
Leon
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: SandyB on September 14, 2008, 01:52:38 PM
Thanks  Leon , yes Ian was not well in his last few years , emphysimia etc ..  but yes he had made peace with his maker  and accepted that he was not going to make older bones ( told me so  personally ) so on the date of his entance to the world he  allowed  his  soul to quietly leave a sick and tired body .. he is at peace ..  Pauline too  , i brought her down for  christmas last year  ,, and we talked at length .. all is on a level ... see details of her visit  on these  links ..

http://www.oranjemundonline.com/Forum/index.php?topic=746.0


http://www.oranjemundonline.com/Forum/index.php?topic=785.msg12985#msg12985          page 2

Sandy

Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: Charmain Meier (Heusdens) on September 14, 2008, 01:59:06 PM
Hi Sandy

Yes, I know exactly what Ian went through, my sister also had the same illness, the suffering is too much and yes, today I must admit, she is better off.  I promised my brother in law I will let her go, even if at times it is still very painful, but she has no more pain.

Charmain
Title: Re: APPIE TRADITIONS IN THE 60'S AND 70'S
Post by: SandyB on September 14, 2008, 02:05:29 PM
Yes Charmain ,, when a person has been through a long time of suffering , its that little  bit  easier to let them move on ..  as said Ian  had made peace .. that came about in long communications  over the email to me .. and yes he is at peace , I had a good  dream of him sitting at the side of my fishpond ,, I always wanted to get him and Pauline down for a stay with me  for a month or so .. but his  health never   got to the point of allowing travel  .. but yes he  now  sits gazing  into the  fishpond in my  peacefull garden .. where Pauline found peace  and final acceptance in my garden so has he ..  You go well and  yes  sterkte for the path forward .. Sandy