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Title: HAGGIS NOT SCOTTISH
Post by: toonfandangl on August 03, 2009, 08:52:57 AM


This is what they belive................................................................ image04

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Title: Re: HAGGIS NOT SCOTTISH
Post by: SandyB on August 03, 2009, 07:39:42 PM
Who cares .. the Scots  have taken it as their own .. and  yes  so many  offal dishes exist .. just a canny way of   dealing with the whole animal .. all cultures have it ..  Pate  always sounds  so glamorous .. but yes  its a way of dealing  with  livers  be they  chicken pork etc .. salami .. Italian french  german  and many european nations  speciality is made  up of   so many bits and pieces  but the right treatment and  herbs and spices .. its a delicacy ...  I have made the most  amazing terrines  using  corned chicken meat ( and on the tin it says  mechanically deboned  chicken meat )  as a base ..   fried onoin, apple .. some chicken liver mushed in  herbs and spices ..   baked  in a terrine  tin with layers of colourful veg strips   etc ...  encased the same in pastry  and  the same treatment ..  and yes the same lip smacking  result ..  the scots have unashamedly embraced Haggis   so dont matter   how many  have forgotten it ... its theirs ..
What  abut  good old fashioned brawn ???  .. Auntie  Jean Laughlin  used to make the most amazing brawn   rich in its  jelly .. left over  roast .. and bits and pieces  jellied with pork trotter  that was  roasted and then boiled down ... MMM   what about drippings ???  fat laden  left over  juice  of the roast  spread on bread .. hey I'm still alive  after  years of ingesting it .. still do it  if i  do a beef roast .. mmm
Title: Re: HAGGIS NOT SCOTTISH
Post by: toonfandangl on August 04, 2009, 02:12:33 AM


Sandy you are a gem !!! your knowledge is priceless all the above you mention I have tasted seen or heard about.

Now I was born in England and Margaret in Scotland while living their we frequently visited her aunties and uncles there.

We know that you have to cross the Scottish border to even see a bloody Haggis!! they are timid creatures and very hard to catch
having one leg shorter than the other (due to them living in the mountainous and hilly areas) traps are laid and their short leg are their down fall.

Sandy you mention a roast!! tell you what you can not beat a piece of Top Side Beef in a Webber BBQ or a piece Pork,Chicken Lamb absolutely
delicious............................................. image04


Title: Re: HAGGIS NOT SCOTTISH
Post by: Michael Alexander on August 04, 2009, 06:08:21 AM
Wild haggis live on circular hills, they generally run in a clockwise direction....... to catch a wild haggis, you have to ascend the hill and confront the haggis as it is doing its circular trip around the hill.... you then scare it into running in the opposite direction, due to the fact that the two shorter legs are now on the outside of the hill, the wee beastie tends to roll down the hill, where the hunters accomplice would be waiting at the bottom of the hill with a bag.....

Title: Re: HAGGIS NOT SCOTTISH
Post by: toonfandangl on August 04, 2009, 08:54:20 AM



Quite correct Michael!! and this methord has been handed down from generation to generation and as Rabbie Burns once said.


Fair fa' your honest, sonsie face,
Great chieftain o the puddin'-race!
Aboon them a' ye tak your place,
Painch, tripe, or thairm:
Weel are ye wordy of a grace
As lang's my arm.

The groaning trencher there ye fill,
Your hurdies like a distant hill,
Your pin wad help to mend a mill
In time o need,
While thro your pores the dews distil
Like amber bead.

His knife see rustic Labour dight,
An cut you up wi ready slight,
Trenching your gushing entrails bright,
Like onie ditch;
And then, O what a glorious sight,
Warm-reekin, rich!

Then, horn for horn, they stretch an strive:
Deil tak the hindmost, on they drive,
Till a' their weel-swall'd kytes belyve
Are bent like drums;
The auld Guidman, maist like to rive,
'Bethankit' hums.

Is there that owre his French ragout,
Or olio that wad staw a sow,
Or fricassee wad mak her spew
Wi perfect sconner,
Looks down wi sneering, scornfu view
On sic a dinner?

Poor devil! see him owre his trash,
As feckless as a wither'd rash,
His spindle shank a guid whip-lash,
His nieve a nit:
Thro bloody flood or field to dash,
O how unfit!

But mark the Rustic, haggis-fed,
The trembling earth resounds his tread,
Clap in his walie nieve a blade,
He'll make it whissle;
An legs an arms, an heads will sned,
Like taps o thrissle.

Ye Pow'rs, wha mak mankind your care,
And dish them out their bill o fare,
Auld Scotland wants nae skinking ware
That jaups in luggies:
But, if ye wish her gratefu prayer,
Gie her a Haggis!....................................................... image04
Title: Re: HAGGIS NOT SCOTTISH
Post by: Mike Voden (RIP) on August 04, 2009, 05:02:23 PM
Frank, ask Mike A what music was played when at the stroke of midnight (or was it 02h00 Hrs) on a New Years Eve a few years ago when the Haggis Mike made was being served, for it was definetly not Auld Lang Syne.

We were all gathered at Jock's old house at E7 - 1st Ave

Some say it was Paul Alexanders fault but................
Title: Re: HAGGIS NOT SCOTTISH
Post by: Michael Alexander on August 04, 2009, 07:34:15 PM
I was tooooo pissssssed to remember that!

:nono1:   ill-3d
Title: Re: HAGGIS NOT SCOTTISH
Post by: Billy Struthers on August 05, 2009, 02:31:11 AM
I have just got back from the land of my birth "Bonnie Scotland" and it was great ! as usual ... bravo although  not a haggis to be found ,I have heard they have discovered a new species of water haggis with wee webbed feet and a flute shaped snout for breathing underwater ,has a bit of a fishy taste to it when boiled go fig ! feedme
Title: Re: HAGGIS NOT SCOTTISH
Post by: Mike Voden (RIP) on August 05, 2009, 07:00:56 AM
Mike A , when were you toooooooooo drunk not to remember.............???????????
BierSuip quickdop BierSuip
Title: Re: HAGGIS NOT SCOTTISH
Post by: toonfandangl on August 05, 2009, 07:47:26 AM



I remember one year 69-70 new years eve we were invited to a party I think it was at Gladys Smiths, anyway we never made it there.
Stopped off at Dave and Jenny Simpson's place (it was before Gladys Smiths place) and the custom was you take a bottle with you (and a piece of coal and bread) 'Jeez' was I ill the next morning.

I found out later they did not drink (Scottish) and I had consumed the bottle of whisky I had taken with me.

In them day's we did not get new years day as a holiday............................I did make it to work but that's another story............ image04


Title: Re: HAGGIS NOT SCOTTISH
Post by: toonfandangl on August 07, 2009, 01:12:19 AM
 Hi3

Billy!! think you are right something Fishy there.............................. image04