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GENERAL DISCUSSIONS! => Anything Goes! => Topic started by: SandyB on September 28, 2009, 06:57:54 PM

Title: Working in foreign countries .. a good idea .. mmmm
Post by: SandyB on September 28, 2009, 06:57:54 PM
Working in other countries  to earn  good  tax  free / low taxed money ... seems always an attractive idea ,,, but yes pitfalls and adjustments ... The story .. A   friend of mine  partner ,, took early retirement from SABC last year at the age of 58 ..  we tried  to  persuade him to stay on till he was at least  60  as his pension payout  would be better .. but  now looking  at whats unfolding  in the news about the  so called " transformation " of the SABC  I can now understand the frustration he as a senior technical  person was going through ...  he was  ending upo with  serious stress related  symptoms .. In reality the  new transforming  board managers etc of SABC  transformed it into a  financially strapped  inefficient  overstaffed  money squandering  entity , the results thereof   now  under scrutiny  by an audit ..  another  failed  social  experiment ...
anyhow Due to reduced  pension Vic has been keeoing himself  busy  doing some part time teaching assignments here  in SA  but yes  he earns a pittance ... so when he came across this opportunity to  work for a year in Jeddah  Saudi Arabia  paying  when converted  to rands  very good money , he decided to have a go ...  He flew out on Saturday ... I enquired last night as to safe arrival etc  .. David sent me this email ...
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Yes have heard from Vic but does not sound all that good ! He has been put up at a dreadful residential hotel that has a toilet with no seat
a small bed side table and small telly .City he says looks like a huge construction  site with very few trees if you can call them that at all !The heat is beyond description and he does not even have a kettle to boil water for tea. There are three eygyptian teachers staying at the hotel with him who are evidently very pleasant but when they took Vic to a local supermarket they could not go inside for fear of been arrested by the religious police as it was prayer time and all locals have to be in mosque at the five prayer times daily.They had to explain to the door man that Victor was a visiting foreignor in order to let him in ! Vic cant get his computer set up until he gets first pay cheque and cant use SA credit cards while he is working overseas according to banking regulations.To crown it all he was told to get to jeddah by the 28th but was informed today that the school is only opening on the 10 th or 12 th of next month so he has to sit around in this dingy hotel room  for  two weeks before begining to teach! He said that the city is dreadful and just full of sand ! I am too depressed about the whole thing but at least am surrounded by familiar things , he is cooped up in an awful hotel room with few prospects of getting anything better as it is just too expensive and the school stipend only pays for virtually half of the cost . the europeon compound is far from the school....
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Mmm  seems a bit  of a shock , culture  shock ...  or  reframe   it in a positive   light , an  adventure  ,,  and yes adjustment  .. and yes currently he  sort  of very hamstrung ,  caught between  a pillar and a post ...   maybe a warning here if you ever considering something like that  .. ensure the broker  who hired you  is  totally  kosher  organized and   takes proper care of you ...
I'm sure he will settle in once busy .. but for now ...
But then the other side of the coin  where  is the graciousness  that countires are supposed to display to their guests  albeit working guests ,, who are providing a valuable service that it appears  they in their oil  washed wealth  are too lazy or  regard as  below their station .???  After all they are teaching their children  valuable   knowledge ... ???   
For my part  I could  not  go to a place like that  , the  thought of religious police trawling around  looking for  errant  non prayer folk  just  makes  me feel as though I'm being smothered  ...   I would  keep myself  sequestered in the European compound   instead  and only move   to work and back ....
In a strange way it reminds me of some of the stories on this  site about the shock  some  womenfolk had first arriving in  O'mund  many years ago when the town was still growing up .. but t even then  people were given  reasonable  and free accommodation  and yes as the town grew  , it became a comfortable oasis...
Title: Re: Working in foreign countries .. a good idea .. mmmm
Post by: SandyB on September 30, 2009, 08:15:53 PM
AN UPDATE ...  Got a very long  redirected   email  via David from Victor .. I   used the words  adjustment .. adventure ..  well Victor is doing just that ...  he  cast the  die .. and now where he is ..   the preferable would be   to be in a compound in the compant of   other like minded ..  ... but yes he  found a few good hlepful  folk in the   persona of   four  egyptian  gentlemen ...  who  are currently    helping him through and protecting him  from being fleeced ...  I will quote his opening words  " from  leaving what was becoming a humdrum  life in Sa I'm now  thrust into  survival mode"  ..    and I   think secretly enjoying  it ...  lots  to be said  for reframing  any bad situation one is  put in .... 
Title: Re: Working in foreign countries .. a good idea .. mmmm
Post by: SandyB on October 01, 2009, 07:52:49 AM
SOME  SETBACK  ,, THE ADVENTURE  TAKING  SOME  BAD TURNS ..  A Mail from david this Morning ...    interesting reading .. again  .. how  ungracious !!  what a way to treat guests in your country ??  read below ./...

How am I doing ? Not toooooo well Managed to speak to Vic on skype last night and could see him on the webcam but lo and behold
This morning he was no longer on line and it now transpires that the kingdom of saudi controls all access to the internett usage and has bared him from using it ..so no telephone or internett usage ! However if he paysR550  .00 per month they will allow him access.P@#$%ses in turbans!!!!He cant even pay accounts from there as planned !!!via the nett. They shoved another of the teachers from CT into his room late Monday night he and the guy had to share the same bed!!!! Vic beside himself .He was also short changed by the principal for the airfair, to the amount of R1000.00 and they did the same to another of the teachers . All very sleazy and dishonest afair  and definitely not what it was made out to be

Title: Re: Working in foreign countries .. a good idea .. mmmm
Post by: Paula Gottsch (Willson) on October 01, 2009, 12:07:33 PM
Silly boy to have even thought of going there never mind to live there, hope he is able to sort things out and get out of there, the sooner the better.

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Title: Re: Working in foreign countries .. a good idea .. mmmm
Post by: toonfandangl on October 01, 2009, 02:46:05 PM


Sandy!!! the plight of you friend in Saudi Arabia is all to common in today's world, and I remember a TV series 'ARF WIEDERSEHEN PET' it was set in the North East England around the seventy's.

The main characters Jimmy Nail and "Timothy Spall" ( was in Harry Potter films) went over to Germany to work, and the gist of the series was they all landed in one of the huts on the building site.

Now most of us younger generation had no idea what to expect when we first left the mother land and traveled by ship or aircraft to South Africa.
I remember Durban nice city, and then being told about a town in Namibia were it was a good family orientated place, and you could have a good life there.

Of course flying into this town from the green lush vegetation of the Cape Town area, looked very daunting, and with a young family to support the word fear crossed ones mind.

I hope your friend settles down there in Saudi Arabia and he learns by the experience.........because there are not  many places around like

Oranjemund.................................................


Title: Re: Working in foreign countries .. a good idea .. mmmm
Post by: SandyB on October 01, 2009, 07:00:06 PM
Diffs is  O.mund  did not try to fleece anyone ...  the beginnings were rough and ready .. but then as i mentioned before  it became this oasis and indeed a hospitable  one ... and people were paid fairly ... if not better than the outside world ..
Title: Re: Working in foreign countries .. a good idea .. mmmm
Post by: Michael Alexander on October 02, 2009, 05:33:08 AM
I guess that Oranjemund also was stocked full of your own ethnic countrymen back in them those days...... that would have helped.....

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Title: Re: Working in foreign countries .. a good idea .. mmmm
Post by: SandyB on June 22, 2010, 06:08:27 PM
Well the saga I reported  on inititally  has now come to an end  for  this  friend ,,, turns out  he  was 
"suspended "  for steadfastly  refusing to adjust  the horrendously low  test and exam results  of these  oil rich parents brats into close to 100 % pass rate  ,,, the headmaster of this  private school is well connected with  the royalty and oil  wealthy .. runs a passing mill whereby the  kids  who most probably wont have to work a stitch in their lives  , thats unless  OIL suddenly runs  out , or some really  wonderful cheap  replacement  by some scientific   wonderwork  of energy  that makes oil redundant ....are given these wonderful  markings which  make the parents proud and willing to pay the  huge fees demanded , sadly so turning the kids into  " qualified  academic cripples " a travesty of which  he in principle would have no part ,, anyhow  he was left alone  to  do the educating  till crunch time being the end of the year  came up , again he refused to mark them up , so hence " suspended ' and  for  the last month  relegated to sitting in the  staff  tea room , an  egyptian  teacher  obvioulsy desperate for work and  continued stay  put in his place    and obviously persuaded to  adjust the marks ...  Not  to comb all under the same comb  , but  yes in that space he found himself a lack of honesty and integrity ,,,  lots of  laws and rules   that  were  in black and white the only time  grey  applied was  for expediency of the  rich and connected ... below the  mail   I got  ,, I have  removed names  for privacy ...
I love the expression  of the  desert wasteland " paradise "

yes .............  arrives tommorow at 8.30am... but what a saga...evidently they only paid him YESTERDAY late and then witheld the exit visa.They wanted to accompany him to the airport and give him the visa there so that he would not then abscond and try and remain behind and work elsewhere!!!! Can you f@$%ing believe these people ! they think everyone wants to remain in that desert wasteland as if it is paradise !...He phoned me at 12 today to say that he had just snatched the visa from their hands in the office and ran off ...at that point he was waiting for his lift to the airport.I phoned him about an hour later and he said that he had  weighed his luggage in and was waiting for the flight .He sent a facebook message which if you read between the lines strongly says that he cannot wait to be out of there!!! So maybe we can expect a slightly more enlightened .........  when he returns
Title: Re: Working in foreign countries .. a good idea .. mmmm
Post by: Paul (Pepe) Freemantle on June 23, 2010, 04:18:51 AM
Hi Sandy, If I can say the following. I have travelled a lot in my timne and managed projects in the Middle East. The last place anyone wants to go in the Middle East is Saudi Arabia. I fortunately was not in Saudi but had work mates that worked there. They told me the same stories as what your friend went through.

I was very fortunate to have worked in Kuwait and travelled often to Dubai and Bahrain. I must say it was the most enjoyable experience of my life. If I could go back tomorrow, I would.