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Title: Eugen Terblanche....murdered...
Post by: Michael Alexander on April 04, 2010, 05:12:19 AM
Not one of my favourite characters, but I fear that after this tale, here comes major problems....

shooter

"Cape Town - AWB leader Eugene Terreblanche, who campaigned for a separate white homeland, was murdered on Saturday on his farm, it has been reported.

The 69-year-old Afrikaans Resistance Movement leader was attacked and killed on his farm in the North West after an alleged dispute with two workers, one a minor, over unpaid wages. The two were arrested and charged with his murder.

"Mr Terreblanche's body was found on the bed with facial and head injuries," police spokesperson Adele Myburgh was quoted as saying.

"A 21-year-old man and 15-year-old boy were arrested and charged for his murder. The two told the police that the argument ensued because they were not paid for the work they did on the farm," she said.

Terreblanche's white supremist supporters, characterised by khaki uniforms and the organisation's swastika-like symbol, violently opposed the talks that led to South Africa's democracy.

Their campaign included bomb attacks ahead of the 1994 polls.

Terreblanche was released from prison in 2004 after having been jailed in 2001 for an attack on a black security guard."

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40228000/jpg/_40228163_terreblanche_ap203body.jpg)
Title: Re: Eugen Terblanche....murdered...
Post by: Michael Alexander on April 04, 2010, 05:13:01 AM
I guess... "you live by the sword.... you die by the sword...."
Title: Re: Eugen Terblanche....murdered...
Post by: Bertie Horak on April 04, 2010, 06:34:56 AM
Shall we start stocking up on canned foods and bottled water... again....?
No1
Maybe Malema should be sued for plotting a murder - didn't he say that's what his followers were supposed to do - kill the boer?? Isn't that a contract killing then?

Not good so close to the soccer spectacle - just one more step to realizing we're going to be the world's biggest fools in about 67 days.
secret(1)
Title: Re: Eugen Terblanche....murdered...
Post by: Michael Alexander on April 04, 2010, 06:37:52 AM
Watching the TV this morning, notice how quick Zuma was to phone the deceased's family, urging tolerance.....
Title: Re: Eugen Terblanche....murdered...
Post by: toonfandangl on April 04, 2010, 11:22:14 AM


His murder was reported here in Australia I heard it on the ABC radio a few hours ago.


Title: Re: Eugen Terblanche....murdered...
Post by: georg ruf jr. on April 04, 2010, 11:27:22 AM
I'm sorry about this, even if this mans belief is VERY different to mine. This is no way to solve problems. You guys know my opinion.
I hope the followers stay under control... Both sides.

Birdie
Title: Re: Eugen Terblanche....murdered...
Post by: Rhona on April 04, 2010, 06:18:19 PM
All over the news here too........
Title: Re: Eugen Terblanche....murdered...
Post by: Clive Symes on April 04, 2010, 06:26:22 PM
Definitly not the way to settle a "wage dispute"!

Lets hope that cooler minds prevail.
Title: Re: Eugen Terblanche....murdered...
Post by: SandyB on April 04, 2010, 08:30:48 PM
I BEEN OFFLINE .. BUSY ,,, BUT YES  WAS GOING TO SAY MY BIT ... THE RULING PARTY THE ANC  SAYS THEY SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH  THE SONG .. KILL  THE BOER ....  TO THE POINT OF CHALLENGING THE COURT ORDER ,,   WHAT IF  IT WAS  KILL THE XHOSA .. OR THE  ZULU    THEY WOULD BE UP IN ARMS  ...   AND  CALL IT HATE SPEECH ...  DOUBLE STANDARDS ...   DOES NOT MATTER IF IT WAS KILL THE  GREEN , PINK YELLOW ETC  IT STILL AMOUNTS  THE SAME THING ... WE HAD OUR SHARE F BLACK ON BLACK XENOPHIBIC  INCIDENTS HERE ,,,  WELLL THE RULING  PARTY  SHOULD NOW TAKE THE FIRM LINE AND  SILENCE THE MAMPARRA ....   INTERSTING ARTICLE IN THE PAPERS THE OTHER DAY ...  SO MANY ISSUES  WOULD NOT  BE IN   THE COURTS  LEADING TO CONSTITUTIONAL COURT  IF THE RULING  PARTY HAD THE BALLS TO TAKE A STANCE .. PROBLEM IS THEY  AFRAID OF LOSING POPULRITY BY TAKING A FIRM STANCE ...  SO  IT ALL GOES TO COURT AND LAWYERS RICH ...
MEANTIME  ENFANT TERRIBAL ,, JULIUS IS IN ZIM AND SAYNG  HOW WELL THE LAND GRABS HAVE GONE  AND THAT    THE SAME SHOULD HAPPEN IN SA ...  HE  HAS NO  BLOODY GREY CELLS ... CAN HE NOT EVEN SEE THE  RUINATION   THE  BREAD BASKET  TURNED INTO A   BEGGGING BASKET .. FARMING IS SERIOUS BUSINESS ...AND REQUIRES INPUT .. GIVE IT TO PEOPLE  WHI DINT KNOW  HOW AND YOU HAVE  UNPRODUCTIVE LAND ... POOOAALLL  THAT HE IS ...    ape
Title: Re: Eugen Terblanche....murdered...
Post by: Michael Alexander on April 06, 2010, 09:36:08 AM
This is really getting stupid now........ who needs Idols auditions when you have this lot of mamparas (on both sides)

This is froM news24 this morning.....

"Ventersdorp - Police had to separate black and white groups with razor wire as tension mounted outside the Ventersdorp Magistrate's Court on Tuesday ahead of the appearance of two people expected to be charged with the murder of AWB leader Eugene Terre'Blanche.


Armoured vehicle stuck

As the police were unrolling the razor wire from their armoured vehicle, they drove into a ditch and got stuck, setting off the singing of the Afrikaner folk song "o, help 'n bietjie daar" (lend a hand), with some of the white people shouting, "find a boer and a tractor" and laughing at the police as they struggled to complete their task of separating the two races.

The white group then sang "Bobbejaan klim die berg" (the baboon climbs the mountain), before a farmer appealed for calm."

ape   shooter   ha ha
Title: Re: Eugen Terblanche....murdered...
Post by: Paul Alexander on April 06, 2010, 11:35:32 AM
Realy!!! the police were seperating the two races!!! Isn't that against the law these days or have some old laws been renacted? My 2 cents (plus another 0.4 cents for the upcoming fuel increase) on this matter:

1. Eugene is dead, the world is a better off place without him. Had he never existed I fail to see what we would have possibly lost out on as a species.

2. Eugene was murdered, well this just sucks there's not much one can comment on  because murder can never be justified... or can it?

A couple of years ago a group of us were discussing the 9/11 event. The question raised was that the perptrators were by and large extremely intelligent individuals, most of them held reputable tertiary qualifications from well know western institutions, they also did not have much in terms of fundamentalist upbringings and had the competency to fly aircraft (passing at the top of their respective classes) so what would it take to drive people of this calibre with seemingly so much to offer the world to want to make such a mind blowing statement with the ultimate sacrifice? Eventually the discussion came round to empathy and perhaps a failure by Western nations (particularly the US) to understand the impact that their economic, political and social global activities were having on other nations (in short, their unwanted interference in the middle east was enough on an incentive to commit this attack). Now as for ET's murderers, can you imagine working for that right wing racist for a paltry 300 bucks a month, then still getting screwed out of it at the end? Can you imagine being the only breadwinner for a family and not being able to provide? Just how frustrated must you be? I get pissed off enough when the bottle store runs out of draught so I'd imagine it wouldn't take that much to finally crack. Not one of use is as stable as we'd like to believe (just imagine yourself in the middle of your most cringworthy verbal fight with somebody and recall how fast your common sense and logic left you). I don't condone the murder but I certainly think South Africans and in particular white south africans need to take a very long and intensive introspective look at themselves and think carefully about how much they really respect and treat other races!!! Think I'm joking? Ever listen to Whackhead Simpson? If you do, note how differently white people speak to other white people taking the micky out of them compared to when they think they are speaking to a black person however when they prank a black individual talking to a white or black person the tone is almost always respectful and sincere.

3. The white backlash: are you kidding!!! the AWB is a joke, it always was and always will be, they epitomise the absolute minority, they wish it was a political killing but it wasn't. Military fatigues, Nazi like flags, stormtroopers... the biggest bunch off copycats out there, why didn't they just all grow pencil moutaches while they were at it (I think some of the woman actually did!!!).

4. The ANC government: Grow some balls and take a stand on Malema, do you really believe that ANY of his actions are in the best interests of the country, stop hiding behind the freedom of speech. You want honest government, drop the salaries to that of till operators and provide a financial bonus to the tune of the difference at the end of the 4 years based on how well they delivered their service, outlaw all forms of involvement in any other business while in office. With paupers in office you can gaurentee that those serving genuinly have the interests of the country at heart!!!

And while I'm at it I'd like a pink pony and an action man and..... bla bla blaaaaa
Title: Re: Eugen Terblanche....murdered...
Post by: Paul Alexander on April 06, 2010, 03:06:45 PM
Although, here's a thought...

I think we'd all agree that Malema is best classed as "a struggle veteran without a struggle", he was 9 years old in 1994 and did not realy experience much of appartheid. I'd go so far as to say, that the one thing he wants more than anything else is some kind of war or fight. A lot of his strategies at present are quite simiular to those of the Nazi's pre WWII. In order to appeal to the masses, you need a scapegoat, in this case, 'the rich white folk who posses most of the factors of production and material riches'. This would explain his 'nationalise the mines' and 'transfer white dominate assets to blacks' campaigns and of course his recent public support of mad Bobs land grabs. Still nobody was getting angry enough, so then come his rendition of 'shoot the boer' which he has never sang so much as since he found out how contentious it was.

Given all this, is it then feasible to suppose that he could be the invisible hand orchestrating ET's demise in order to further add fuel to the fire of hate?
Title: Re: Eugen Terblanche....murdered...
Post by: SandyB on April 06, 2010, 04:27:23 PM
Agreed  Paul , folk of  limited  intelllect  tend  to take  what  " leaders"  say literally  and if  a " leader "  said  its  Ok  to Kill the Boer  then well  they could  regard it as justifed ...  look at mob mentality throughout history ,,, always people  who dont think things through  inadvertently  end up doing  the  spouters  of the populist  words  bidding ... in closing its time the ANC grew up and realised the " struggle "  is long  over  , the " struggle " songs  and rhetoric  have no place  in  our current  so called   new democracy .. ..  and yes time for the  leaders  to take a  strong stance  and not couch words ,  tell the mamparras to shut  up or face  the consequences ... 
Title: Re: Eugen Terblanche....murdered...
Post by: Michael Alexander on April 07, 2010, 05:50:04 AM
From News24 this morning.... I don't see how this is gonna work...... at the next mass rally, he will stay silent, but the masses will start to sing the song now.....

"Cape Town - Julius Malema is no longer allowed to sing the words "shoot the boer" in a controversial struggle song, the ANC said on Tuesday.

He is also not allowed to make any statements about murder victim Eugene Terre'Blanche or do anything provocative.

Gwede Mantashe, secretary-general of the ANC, confirmed to Beeld on Tuesday night that he and President Jacob Zuma met with the ANC youth league leader.

"I've just come from Ma¬hlambandlopfu (Zuma's official residence in Pretoria), where I told Malema to refrain from making inflammatory statements. He is also not allowed to sing the song ("Ayesab' amagwala") in its entirety," said Mantashe.

"There will be very clear outcomes regarding Malema after our conversation with him. People will be able to see the result. The ANC and the youth league will restrain him."

He said if singing the words "shoot the boer" is leading to polarisation in society, the ANC will put a stop to it.

However, only the ANC can make such a decision and only after internal discussions, "because it is we as the ruling party who are leading society".

"However, we are convinced that a political solution, as opposed to a legal one, will provide a holistic solution.

"I'm no protector of Malema, but the irritation he causes and the problem... needs to be isolated and solved," said Mantashe."

Title: Re: Eugen Terblanche....murdered...
Post by: Carl Wrbka on April 07, 2010, 08:34:20 AM
Looks like the beginning of something big:

Johannesburg - The ANC on Thursday expressed its shock at an SMS promising a R2m reward to anyone who kills its youth league president Julius Malema.

The ANC was taking the threat "very seriously" and had reported it to Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa for investigation, ANC spokesperson Jackson Mthembu said.

"... This SMS is clearly a public declaration to kill," he said.

The threats were a reminder of the rightwing propaganda campaigns of the past against ANC members who were eventually assassinated.
Title: Re: Eugen Terblanche....murdered...
Post by: Michael Alexander on April 11, 2010, 08:25:52 AM
 image201  This is gonna get really really strange......

Moroko also claimed that Terre Blanche first tried to get the accused drunk before he allegedly tried to have sex with "one or both of them".

"It is in the court record that Mr Terre Blanche bought my client 18 Savannas (cider) and the other accused, who is still a minor, 13 Savannas before driving them to his farm. Mr Terre Blanche bought himself a bottle of Smirnoff (vodka) at the same liquor store."

He said the state's version is that the two had gone to Terre Blanche's home in Röth Street to "borrow money". "

From the Sunday Times: LINK: http://www.timeslive.co.za/sundaytimes/article397291.ece/ET-wanted-to-sodomise-me--says-accused
Title: Re: Eugen Terblanche....murdered...
Post by: SandyB on April 11, 2010, 08:38:38 AM
Mmm  quite a story .. and  with  lots of twists ,, thats if  it is true ...  but  they  a bit  out of date ,, in the dark ages  of SA a lot of people used the  excuse   " he  tried to .... me  etc " as  an excuse for taking their life ...  its  no  excuse  for taking a  life ,, all one has  to  do when  encountering  a situation like that  is  klap the person and run  ,,, 
Title: Re: Eugen Terblanche....murdered...
Post by: georg ruf jr. on April 13, 2010, 05:35:34 PM
My freind Garry from PE sent this to me oday. Decide for yourself:

S.Africa: EXTREMELY IMPORTANT: The Murder of Eugene Terreblanche was
> DEFINITELY a Planned Assassination....
> Date Posted: Sunday 04-Apr-2010
> A friend of mine phoned me up with a most stunning fact he has spotted in
> the newspapers. He used to be in Military Intelligence decades ago, and
> scanning newspapers was his daily job.
> He told me this. He said, that according to the newspaper reports the 21
> year old and the 15 year old who murdered Eugene Terreblanche, killed him
> AND THEN PHONED THE POLICE TO SAY THEY'VE KILLED HIM "IN SELF DEFENCE".
> My friend said: Where on earth do you hear of instances, especially in
> South Africa, on a farm, where the murderers phone the police to say "come
> and get us". They have every opportunity on earth to escape and they
> didn't.
> They're young, they are in a remote area, they could very easily have
> melted
> into the townships and never been found (we have so many unsolved
> murders).
> And, when the Police arrive they already have their story ready and the
> story is they killed him because he did not pay their wages.
> My friend, who is no conspiracy theorist said to me: Jan, you've been
> saying this for YEARS... and here it is.
> He was also talking that these 2 guys will get big pay-offs for the murder
> of Eugene. That's why they will go to jail, because they know they'll be
> looked after, they'll get a nice soft landing. The monies and favours have
> probably been agreed on for them and their families out of some secret
> black
> budget, etc. Rest assured, these guys went in there, did the job, murdered
> him and this was just the next step in the procedure.
> Now ask yourself WHY they would want to be caught? Here's the reason: It
> is
> utterly crucial that they carry out the next step in the plan which is:
> ANC
> RACE HATE PROPAGANDA AGAINST AFRIKANERS AND WHITES BY WAY OF USING EUGENE
> TERREBLANCHE AS THE EXAMPLE.
> So now the newspapers and court rooms will be filled with the following
> line, which goes: "We poor blacks are constantly being abused by these
> racist, white Afrikaner trash, and (sob) poor us, we were so poor and this
> horrible man refused to pay us... and in desperation we killed him because
> we have had enough of this endless abuse by these racist white scum. (more
> sobs)" Then everyone goes: "Tut, tut..." shame poor black guys... that
> piece
> of white racist sh*t DESERVED TO DIE... he got what he rightfully
> DESERVED.
> But this is propaganda, and here's where it gets even more insidious. I
> wrote about this stuff in my book, Government by Deception (2001). I wrote
> about "Semantic Warfare" and I wrote deeply about propaganda. In there I
> mentioned that you also smear people by association. So, killing ET has
> interesting consequences. Because ET has been demonised over the years and
> has a high profile as a "white Neo-NAZI racist", he fits a nice "profile"
> that is quite well established in the minds of foreigners, Liberals, etc.
> He
> is seen as the "typical Afrikaner" - which he is not. But he has become
> the
> IMAGE of how others perceive the Afrikaner to be.
> So now when he is killed like this, with this excuse, the next step, is a
> generalised SMEAR CAMPAIGN against ALL AFRIKANERS and then to a lesser
> extent, all whites. That's the next step for these 2 young blacks. (Heck,
> at
> this rate, maybe the ANC would like them to appear on Oprah where, like
> that
> Bobbit woman, they can explain how this white racist maltreated them and
> why
> they were JUSTIFIED in the "RIGHTEOUS KILLING" of ET).
> This is a campaign, and I have warned before, when the ANC wants to come
> after us, they will smear us. They need to tell everyone how evil we are
> BEFORE THEY KILL US, so that when they do kill us, then everyone quietly
> goes along and says: The white trash of South Africa DESERVED TO DIE. THIS
> WAS GOOD.
> The ANC will be using all their organs to spread this racist propaganda
> about ET across the world. It is crucial that they smear us. The ANC is
> planning other things for us.
> Incidentally, Julius Malema, Racist, communist attack dog, and personal
> mouthpiece of Jacob Zuma and the ANC, happens to be outside the country at
> this time. Malema claims whites want to kill him. Isn't it interesting
> that
> he is outside the country as we speak? I mentioned before what a crybaby
> coward he is, and I suspect that the crybaby coward Malema was spirited
> out
> of this country (on tax payer money to Robert Mugabe!!!! Yes!)... just in
> case some whites decided to pop him. I'll bet that as part of their plan
> they needed to ensure Julius's safety and so they sent him out of the
> country on an appropriate mission - which itself will be in the next
> article
> I am about to post.
> It all smells to me like a plan that came together.
> I would like to know more about the 2 blacks who murdered ET. How long did
> they work for him? Is there any evidence he did not pay them in the past,
> etc? What can we find out about the black people who worked personally for
> ET.
> Posted By: Jan
> AfricanCrisis Webmaster
> Author of: Government by Deception
Title: Re: Eugen Terblanche....murdered...
Post by: SandyB on April 15, 2010, 07:43:55 PM
Georg <   I  find  some of the content of this  writing above  by this person  acceptable  and some not ...  some I  regard as part of a hysteria ...  I say  let the courts decide ...  Ok there  are issues there as well they want  to hold the  hearing  in camera  as the one perpetrator is underage ,,,  to me  it makes no diffs underage or not ,  if one can participate in the bludgeoning and hacking of another being to death  then  you capable of  standing trial and should  theoritically not be protected .... but  we let that unfold ...  quite honestly all that  should  transpire is   no cameras  and no  reference to the name of the  " underage " murderer ... but yes all the facts   of the trial open to public scrutiny ............
I note they have suddenly dropped the   sodomy / attempted sodomy  vein of their defence  attack .  like said ... methinks  their crooked awyers were grasping at straws ,, then realising that  in the  vein of our constitution and our supposed  exiting  from the  dark  ages of discrimination that this  does  not  do the trick anymore ........   we now await and see ...
Title: Re: Eugen Terblanche....murdered...
Post by: Diana Rudd (Boehme) on April 15, 2010, 08:54:43 PM
I do have to wonder why they handed themselves over.........
Title: Re: Eugen Terblanche....murdered...
Post by: Michael Alexander on April 16, 2010, 05:48:50 AM
Agree with Sandy, reactionary article......  created to cause reaction from the right....

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