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Title: Morrows
Post by: georg ruf jr. on November 11, 2007, 04:07:05 PM
Does anybody know where Ivan, "Nan", Sean, Andrew and Amanda moved to? They used to live in 5th Ave just accross the road from the old powerstation.
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: barb (Fry) on November 11, 2007, 07:00:39 PM
I don't know but I believe Andrew died some years back.  Young and unexpected - heart attack I think.

Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: Bev Burchell on November 11, 2007, 07:43:24 PM
Hi George

I stand corrected but if  Andrew was "Andy" as I knew him he died whilst rock climbing ... a real freak accident and Ivan also passed away just not sure of dates.

Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: georg ruf jr. on November 11, 2007, 07:48:25 PM
That's realy tough news for me. I liked the morrows.
My parents visited om in the 80s ansd met Andy. He told them about his dangerous sports. Actualy I'm not surprised. He was a pusher.
Ivan would probably be over 70, maybe even 75. But that's no age nowadays? I think he smoked a lot.
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: Bev Burchell on November 11, 2007, 08:01:45 PM
Ivan was a lovely man but yes if I recall he was very ill before he died.
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: georg ruf jr. on November 12, 2007, 04:42:52 AM
where and when did you get to know the morrows bev? do we know each other too?
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: Bev Burchell on November 12, 2007, 05:46:29 PM
Hi George... ok I lived in Oranjemund from the end of 1979 till 1995 with a break of 4 years in between.

I couldnt tell you how I met Ivan... guess he was just one of those people you bumped into that made a lasting impression but it was obviously through work I guess.   I knew Andy better though as he was I think just a tad younger than me.  I am Mike Hardman's little sister ... I saw on the other page that you know him??

regards
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: georg ruf jr. on November 12, 2007, 06:34:14 PM
Sorry, but I don't know Mike. I probably just commented on something to find a way into the discusion.  :buffo9:
We left om Febuary 1979 and I haven't been in Africa at all since then. Andy and I used to go to school together. Sometimes we went to the beach or the logcabin to fish or what ever else. We were at the boy scouts, went camping ect. Just pals and starting to be teenagers. First smoke, first beer without adult attention and first interests for girls.
I remember Ivan always having a slight of a twinkel in his eyes. Sometimes he would tell us stories of the old-days as a boy in Belfast. He was an Irishman as you may recall.
Did you know his wife und the other two children Sean and Amanda?
Georg
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: Alfred Boehme on November 12, 2007, 07:17:13 PM
Hi Georg (jnr)

Andy and I where appies (electrical) together, we then where called up to do our army stint, I remember he never enjoyed his army days. He was a great guy

Alfred
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: georg ruf jr. on November 12, 2007, 07:21:14 PM
Hi Alfred. Great to hear nice words about Andy.
Were you appies in om?
Is there any more you can tell me about from 1979 onward?
Perhaps we know each other too. I don't remember your name and don't recognise you on your photo.
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: Patricia Lotte on November 13, 2007, 04:42:36 AM
I heard that Mandy had married a Greek guy and moved to Greece.
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: georg ruf jr. on November 13, 2007, 04:48:32 AM
how long did you stay in om? i heard you and your family moved to france. my dad just mentioned a visit at your parents place in france some years back. it seems our fathers are realy good freinds.
georg
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: Kenny Aitken on November 13, 2007, 11:56:12 AM
I was very good friends with both Andy and Sean. Sean was a year behind me at WBHS and Andy was another year behind at Rondebosch BH. Andy was a fantastic bloke who became really into surfing, winsurfing and rock climbing. Andy was very much in love with Edwina Baker (they had a kid together). One day whilst on contract in some small mining town up north near Bloem, Andy and some friends were fooling around  practicing their climbing on a six foot wall when he accidentally fell and knocked his head. The next day Andy sadly passed away.
I saw Sean at Andy's funeral, Sean was at that stage working in London.
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: georg ruf jr. on November 13, 2007, 12:33:24 PM
That's very sad for me. Esspecialy reading the details. I liked him a lot to. We spent standard 6 and 7 in Mrs Ralph class. We were only about 15 pupils even though the other class was so much bigger. Don't know why.
I still remember his voice and the way he would when he would make fun of me. I was often for lunch at the Morrows place on sunday. They would usely invite someone from ivans work. Aundrien was a good friend of they also turned up often on sundays for lunch.
Do you have Seans adress, or at least some more details.
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: Kenny Aitken on November 13, 2007, 01:34:10 PM
Georg, no unfortunately I don't have Seans address. If I bump into one of the Bakers I'll see what I can do.
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: georg ruf jr. on November 13, 2007, 02:18:40 PM
Thanks!
Bakers?
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: Charmain Meier (Heusdens) on November 13, 2007, 06:20:11 PM
Where is Nan Morrow?  We worked together at the Security Department.  Is she still well?

Charmain Meier (Heusdens)
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: georg ruf jr. on November 13, 2007, 07:12:59 PM
Nan at the security department? I rembered her working as a nurse in the om hospital.
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: Kenny Aitken on November 14, 2007, 06:17:24 AM
Bakers, yes Julian and Edwina Baker, I think the Dad's name was Aubry and the mom Pearl.
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: Charmain Meier (Heusdens) on November 14, 2007, 04:30:33 PM
Kenny

You are spot on with the names! Aubrey worked at Uubvley and used to smoke a stinking pipe

Charmain
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: Hooter on November 14, 2007, 06:11:55 PM
 :emot112:
Andy died while being on a course .@ Welkom . He fell backward from  a 6 ft wall while attending a braai. next day transfered to Bloemfontein. but it was too late. he died from brain haemorage .
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: georg ruf jr. on November 14, 2007, 06:17:09 PM
Hallo Hennie. Did you know him well?
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: Hooter on November 14, 2007, 06:24:41 PM
yes I knew the Morrows well , Ivan & Nan was our neighbours @ Oranjemund 15 th Ave.. Andy came to Koffiefontein as a learner .
nextdoors was Cas an Katinka Catle and then the Morrows
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: georg ruf jr. on November 14, 2007, 06:27:00 PM
I remember the Morrows having lived in 5Th. So they probably moved as their kids had left home?
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Post by: Michele Alexander (Voden) on November 14, 2007, 06:45:24 PM
The year Andy died was 1993, it must've been about April/May and their daughter (I think her name is Zoe) was born not long afterwards.

There is a plaque outside the library with Ivan's date of death on it - will have to drive past tomorrow and have a look.
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: Hooter on November 14, 2007, 07:12:15 PM
sorry for the delay . Escom had a mature moment.
George , you are quite right . Ivan and Nan lived in 5th Ave. Our neighbours was Cas and Katinka Castle , and then it was Jacky Carr. Andy died in 1993 :emot186:
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: georg ruf jr. on November 15, 2007, 04:20:12 AM
Do you have Seans adress?
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: Hooter on November 15, 2007, 04:39:03 AM
His mother Nan moved to Somerset West or Gordons Bay . staying near to Aldrien Collard [ sister @ hospital ] I have to go through old correspondence for Aldrien's address in Somerset .
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: georg ruf jr. on November 15, 2007, 04:43:36 AM
Sounds you can help. Would be grand. Sean and I used to be freinds till he went to high school. I think in Rondebosch.
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: georg ruf jr. on November 15, 2007, 04:49:27 AM
Quote from: Michele Alexander (Voden) on November 14, 2007, 06:45:24 PM
The year Andy died was 1993, it must've been about April/May and their daughter (I think her name is Zoe) was born not long afterwards.

There is a plaque outside the library with Ivan's date of death on it - will have to drive past tomorrow and have a look.
Hi Michele-
Why was Ivan "given" a plaque? Could you send me a pic of it please?
I thought Andy died more recently, but he was only 29 at that time.
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: Alfred Boehme on November 15, 2007, 07:33:16 PM
Quote from: Alfred Boehme on November 12, 2007, 07:17:13 PM
Hi Georg (jnr)

Andy and I where appies (electrical) together, we then where called up to do our army stint, I remember he never enjoyed his army days. He was a great guy

Alfred

Yes we where appies in O/Mund I dont remember you started my appie days in 1984 still working in O/Mund Andy was very adventurous I remember him going down a dump slope on a piece of wood he loved sailing, wind surfing ect Andy was a little older than me

Alfred
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: georg ruf jr. on November 15, 2007, 07:38:08 PM
Andy and I were born 1964 and just 1 1/2 months apart.
We went to std. 4 and 5 together in Mrs. Ralphs class. She was quite ambitious about hocky. You must know her to.
Where did you get your german name from?
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: Alfred Boehme on November 15, 2007, 07:55:35 PM
My Dad is from Germany he started working in O/Mund 1959 and retired in 1991
I was born in O/Mund I must of been in std 2/3 ? when you and Andy where in std 5

Alfred
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: georg ruf jr. on November 16, 2007, 04:58:01 AM
Do you still live in om? I always wondered how some peopke could stay so long. Most people left after 5, 10 or 15 years.
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: georg ruf jr. on November 16, 2007, 07:57:00 AM
Andy and were facinated by Huck Fin. So obviously we dreamed of building a raft. I suppose we sort of thought, if we just believe hard enough we'd get to the goal. Standing at the yacht club we always imagend what it be like letting the raft to water on the side of the lagoon none of the boatsman ever went.
We never got any further than "imagening". Wood, old empty barrels, rope, nails... Oh forget it.
I remember Ivan smiling about the idea.
Little boy dreams.
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: Michael Alexander on November 16, 2007, 10:15:17 AM
Georg Jnr, there are some people still here 47 years... top of my head of longtime people still here..Mike Stenson, Freddie Arendse, Sharron Wilson Holland, Terry Holland, Rosmarie Van Rensburg (Muller), Coreen Swanepoel......

We were meant to be here for only 2 years....that was 37 years ago, but I have no reason to leave, Have a good job, get to work with my wife, live 3 minutes walk from work, school still good for my two kids, brother is my neighbour, Wifes parents live 2 houses away, the nights are safe and really silent....

So I won't be leaving till I have toooooooo......

:bagno1:
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: georg ruf jr. on November 16, 2007, 10:18:23 AM
I probably know Freddie. He must be 1 or 2 years younger than me.
Is Sharon the daughter of Mrs. Wilson the teacher? I believe she had a daughter named Sharon. Blonde?
Swanepoel. I remember Mark and Sharon Swanapoel. We were togetheter in standerd 3 with Mrs. Coffin, I think.
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: Michael Alexander on November 16, 2007, 10:38:16 AM
Freddie's mom ran the cooldrink factory......sharons mom was indeed the teacher Mrs Wison.... Coreen's brother is Derek Swanepoel....

Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: georg ruf jr. on November 16, 2007, 11:45:55 AM
Was Derek quite a big strong boy with blondiisch hair? Afrikaans speaking?
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: Michael Alexander on November 16, 2007, 11:58:47 AM
........ that's the chap.... big blonde guy, Afrikaans speaking.....

:looser1:
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: georg ruf jr. on November 16, 2007, 12:01:17 PM
Must be about 40?
Then I have a slight memory of him. Never delt with him, but knew him by sight.
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: Michael Alexander on November 16, 2007, 12:05:13 PM
He still works for the company, but is now based in Windhuk!

:yeah3:
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: Alfred Boehme on November 16, 2007, 07:38:29 PM
Quote from: georg ruf jr. on November 16, 2007, 04:58:01 AM
Do you still live in om? I always wondered how some peopke could stay so long. Most people left after 5, 10 or 15 years.
Georg jnr Yrs I'm still in O/Mund and I plan to retire here, Mark works on the rigs of the coast of Angola he stays in Cape Town
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: Diana Rudd (Boehme) on November 16, 2007, 07:45:31 PM
Is this Coreen Depola (not sure of spelling).Another brother was Johan Depola. Played in a band back then with Johan Krige.They were our neighbours in E15/11
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: georg ruf jr. on November 16, 2007, 07:55:57 PM
Quote from: Alfred Boehme on November 16, 2007, 07:38:29 PM
Quote from: georg ruf jr. on November 16, 2007, 04:58:01 AM
Do you still live in om? I always wondered how some peopke could stay so long. Most people left after 5, 10 or 15 years.
Georg jnr Yrs I'm still in O/Mund and I plan to retire here, Mark works on the rigs of the coast of Angola he stays in Cape Town
Do you mean Mark van Greunen?
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: Alfred Boehme on November 16, 2007, 08:02:05 PM
No, I thought u where talking about Mark Swanepoel
Alfred
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: georg ruf jr. on November 16, 2007, 08:27:32 PM
Of course. Got the topics mixed up. Sorry! Are you in contact with him? We used to call im "Acie", because he would always want to play the ball on his own all the way to the goal. hihi
Do you know Mark van Greunen?
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: georgswa (Georg Ruf) (RIP) on November 24, 2007, 03:03:01 PM
Georg son and Andy Morrow on the Pink Pan Xmas 1977
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: Larry G on November 11, 2009, 12:12:54 PM
I knew Ivan Morrow in 1961-2 when he was a draughtsman in the survey dept. He introduced me to my wife who was a nursing sister. He married Nan du Plessis after I had left and stayed at O'mund for many years after that, becoming a public relations officer for the mine due to his pleasant demeanor.

I lost track of the Morrows until about ten years ago. Ivan had died by then, I think of a heart attack, and Nan was living then in a flat in a Cape Town suburb on the west side of False Bay.  She had been the theatre sister at the O'mund hospital, and an excellent one.

I also remember Ivan describing his youth in Cape Town where he and friends used to catch crayfish by the 44 gallon drum-full, to sell them to the hotels at ten shillings a drum! When I arrived in O'mund he played wing on the rugby team, by far the fastest person on the field through shear terror he said.
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: Andrew Darné on November 13, 2009, 10:33:49 PM
Have fond memories of Uncle Ivan. Many a tea time spent at the survey offices listening to the banter, jokes and Sperrgebiet tales. Will never forget visiting at the survey offices during school holidays (step dad was a surveyor) and Ivan would talk a hole into my head about why my old man should give me a raise on my hostel pocket money then nag the old man that he was being a cheapskate. Thanks to Ivan I got a raise every time my old man did...
Remember his eye for detail... the 3D landscape models he made and the model of the bucket wheel excavator to name a few; the picture framing he did in his pondok at home. Inovation was another of his talents; like the "hamster wheel" idea he gave me for the anything-that-floats... I never got to build it though.
Andy was quite a bit older than me but remember him being one of the few courageous Omund shortboard sailors to venture out of the mouth and sail the Atlantic where many feared to go.
Long live their memories...

Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: Michael Alexander on November 14, 2009, 07:18:21 AM
I once watched Andy and Craig Thornton windsurfing in those waves at the beach, really impressive for those days, needless to say Owen Kitchen became the master of those same waves later... I also believe Owen holds the record for being the only person ever to windsurf Meob Bay, anyone know more about this historical event?

Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: georg ruf jr. on November 14, 2009, 10:08:55 AM
That's typical of Andy. I'd never had thought anybody would go out on those waves. Geeeeez!
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: Alfred Boehme on November 14, 2009, 03:17:12 PM
and Andy surft down 2 plt dump on a old piece of wood
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: Michael Alexander on November 22, 2009, 09:25:11 AM
Here's a 1972 snap of the Morrows!
Title: Re: Morrows
Post by: georg ruf jr. on November 23, 2009, 04:49:35 AM
THanks Mike!