Murder most foul!

[Pat Heiser]

Paul   I can sympathise with you and have been through very similar experience with my sister however we were aware of her
depression for approx 5 years she received treatment/ hospitalisation etc and yet we her family, even seeking advise on how to assist her, felt
alone and helpless.    It's a dreadful experience.     For those left behind there remain in ones memory many unanswered questions?    God Bless you
From Pat Heiser (Dodd)

[Paul (Pepe) Freemantle]

@ Pat, thank you for the kind words. I must say I have walked a very long road with Craig to date. I Praise God that he is doing so well. I havn't seen him looking so well in 6 years. I am sorry and sad to hear about your loss as well. We are fortunate that today there is far better treatment than earlier days. Where is Trevor and do you have any contact with him? Keep well and regards to all. Kind regards, Paul

[Ricky Barron (RIP)]

Hi Michael,
According to my Mom, May Barron (O'mund 1951-1972) the heading to this event should have been "murder most tragic". Colin Earley and myself were actually playing in the "veld" near the cemetary on the day of the funeral and witnessed the very sad burial. the tragic event as I recall, with the help of my Mom, Nancy Stocken and Paddy Marx occurred on a Friday or Saturday. They did live in the vicinity of 5th/6th Ave, close to the old shopping centre. The father worked in the security department, and was on duty at the time. Apparently after drowning the children she slit her wrists and then ran down the street when the wife of another member of the security dept found her bleeding and crying. The wife went into the house and found the children (still in the bath). The grave has two entwined angels embossed on the headstone, and is not far from my father's grave. The mother did spend time in Valkenburg and the father remarried. Could you PLEASE tell us the name of the family, as it is now driving us all batty!
Thanks in anticipation!
Regards, Ricky Barron.

[Michael Alexander]

Hi Ricky, thanks for that account. The topic was chosen as Murder most foul, as I had no idea as to what the photographs alluded to. Our online slueths pieced this mystery together quite quickly though... and I am gonna leave work just now...go home and fetch my camera and head down to the graveyard quickly...

[Michael Alexander]

Here we go...... The end  of the mystery........

[Ricky Barron (RIP)]

Hi Michael,
Thanks for clearing that up, I've been wracking my brains ever since you posted the subject. I got the details of the angels a bit mixed up, but there you go.
Regards, Ricky.

[Bev Coates (Now Walker)]

so glad to hear all the stories on this site....i was diagnosed with depression/stress the week chris had his triple by pass....and im still off work untill next week......i had denied i had it for months before i finally cracked and went to the doctors...a build up of a lot of different problems but 1 that didnt help was when my mum died at 50 all the doctors she visited said she was just going through the menopause and all the changes to her body...loosing weight...hot sweats were all due to that....and gave her anti depressants....the day she died....from lung cancer....when i got to 50 i breathed a sigh of relief.......that i was still alive lol   but i had been going to the doctors for 2 years saying i knew something was wrong with me...they said it would be the start of the menopause...ok.....then i went back and back....same answer its your age...then after about 2 years and about 6 visits i saw a lady doctor, told her all the men doctors blamed my hormones but that i knew something was wrong....she agreed gave me tests....and whey ........i had an illness one that neaded treatment if i was ever going to get better........well i wont get better its incurable......but at least i knew i wasnt going crazy..............now i know i am going through the menopause and i know thats mostly why i havent been able to cope with everything thats been happening recently.....and what have they done.......given me anti depressants.....apparently thats how they treat the menapuase.....but can i tell you also that all these crimes that are commited and things like depression....pmt...post natal depression are blamed.......i can fully understand why.......i havent wanted to kill myself........JUST EVERYONE AROUND ME.....lol.....   the depression is also the reason i havent been on here as often    .....so hopefully ill be back to normal soon.........whatever normal is lol

[Michele Alexander (Voden)]

  Bev - looking forward to seeing more of you online!

[Rhona]

@ Bev -  whenever you are ready for us we are here for you...

[pam spackman]

Hi Bev, I really do commiserate (sp) with you. As soon as you hit your late 40's EVERYTHING is THE MENOPAUSE!!!
which as far as I'm concerned...........it's the PITS!! But it will get better, but the night sweats never seem to go away.
But do have a chat anytime...no matter when as it helps to chat..........no matter what about' am here for you.
I hope you are feeling a lot better.Don't give up.
Thinking of you Pam          

[Bev Coates (Now Walker)]

Thank you all once again for you very kind words...rhona had me in tears reading her message lol.......but much appreciated....think im ok now...............think it was more stress than depression with me...but all the symptom i had pointed to severe depression....that in itself made me feel strange....ive got my sister coming over from ireland tomorro for a week,,,,then im going back to work........also as you will see by the time i have posted this, im still not getting the sleep i need ...so i will say goodnight and thanx to each and everyone of you,,,,

[Diana Rudd (Boehme)]

I can relate to you Bev,although I don't have an illness. I to went through a killing spree last year.With the menopause thing and my fathers death I lost the plot totally.I'm surprised Stephen didn't leave me as I would have left myself if I could. Then I was fortunate to have such a wonderull husband,who I put through hell. My friends as well,ask Debbie and Richard but they all stood by me.
So Bev you to have us on this forum and as Rhona said we are here for you to chat or whatever it is you needing at the time. I must say the forum started up about that time, and I found it wonderfull to loose myself in here. Now I've been taking Cipralex for a year and everything is cool Bananna Fudge.
Take care and DON'T dissapear from here.   

[Pat Heiser]

Hi Pepe   Re your question about Trevor.    Trevor died in a car accident in the November of 1984 (my Dad died of cancer in the June of same year).
It's quite a story about police efficiency when it came to us finding out about Trevor's death.    The police never informed us we found out through the
Oranjemund grapevine.   Regards Pat Heiser

[Paul (Pepe) Freemantle]

Hi Pat, I am very sad to hear that my heart goes out to you and the family. We knew Trevor very well and went to school with him, he was a great guy. The same as with my brother Tony's death, it is still a unresolved mystery and will never get to know the truth or what actually happened.

Kind Regards,

Pepe

[Florrie van Zyl (Muir)]

@ Diana, love the bit about "I would have left myself if I could", feel like that myself often. Sometimes think Wilhelm only sticks it out with me because I do the farm's books. I have been on Cipralex for quite a while, think I inherited my Mom's depression. They pills helped a lot in the beginning but lately not so much, think my body might be getting too used to them or else I am starting menopause.