Dead Gemsboks for Dinner!

[SandyB]

I SUBSCRIBE TO AVAAZ .ORG AND A FEW OTHER ACTVIST SITES ,, GET REGULAR CAUSES TO VOTE ON FOR PETITIONS ... GOT THIS ONE TODAY ,,,

WOULD SAY ITS RELEVANT ?? 

I COPIED IT INTO WORD DOC ..

[Cherry (Alcock)]

Oh good grief people .. have a decent debate without attacking others and wishing ill ... not nice so play nice!

[Bob Molloy]

Hi Skinny,
                Belated happy birthday and apologies for getting your gender wrong. Though I must admit you scored delightfully when you put wallabies and koalas in my back garden and then put a fence through it with the cobbers on one side and Aborigines on the other. I couldn't even get my car out because the fence crossed the driveway but fortunately when I woke up in this morning you'd taken it all back. Whew!

Not sure about the Holocaust reference but I do feel you have the anti-semitic thing by the wrong end of the stick. My wife's father is a Cohen who fled Germany with his brother and two sisters in the late Thirties. He settled in South Africa, served as a medical officer in the South African armed forces during the western desert and Italian campaigns and later practiced in Johannesburg as a heart surgeon where he founded his present family. The other siblings went to Palestine and settled on a kibbutz which my wife and I visited after the Yom Kippur war with the aim of settling there. Picking oranges for a living didn't quite cut it for a pair of hardline journos so we eventally came here to Godzone with two laaitjies under the age of five and started our own printing and publishing business.
We've had various Israeli relatives visit us over the years the latest a few months ago, he a former fighter pilot in the Six Day War and she an officer in the IDF in that war. Their take on the Promised Land would only dismay you so I won't repeat it here.  But as they said they are stuck with it and now in their late sixties see little hope for their erring nation and can only pray their grandchildren will sort it out.

It's possible you are confusing Zionism with Judaism, a common misconception. I think my point was that the Holocaust has been abrogated by Zionists and turned into an industry which not only supplies funds but also a shelter behind which more dubious practices can be hidden. There's a growing belief among international Jewry that Zionism is not necessarily the best thing that has happened to them. There's a very good Jewish blog based in New York called Mondeweiss which is worth reading if you are interested in the subject.
I think I also queried whether we should even be talking such issues on this website as they are hugely contentious and can generate volcanic feelings on both sides. Perhaps could Michael rule on that. 

And thanks to Sandy for the mention of the 1080 petition. It is indeed a noxious poison that degrades the environment. Ironically, it is routinely used in air drops by the New Zealand Department of Conservation to kill possums which are a non-indigenous species that suddenly exploded in numbers when first imported here and now munch up some 70,000 tonnes of vegetation a night, destroying the forests and killing native birds.

My wife, who is the editor of the local paper and also a trustee of a forestry group, feels this is a scatter gun approach that, yes, is highly effective in killing possums but can poison the waterways and sometimes kills other wildlife including the birds it is supposed to protect. Some new ideas, such as possum contraception in food pellets are being trialled. Meantime she has for the past three years been running a campaign in her newspaper against 1080 and feels confident the political will is swinging in favour of banning it.   

Now where's that damn hyena?

[Bertie Horak]

Look all you want, Bob, you wont find her. I now put my pet hyena in the back garden every night so you cant poison the sweet ol' girl...

[SandyB]

Aah !!   some  humour coming in here ... good , Bobs  story of the  driveway ha  ha .. we need  humour in our lives ..  life is hard enough and yes we sometimes get passionately caught up in things , or  put the proverbial foot in the mouth .. been there myself on this forum .. so now  all of  you  reach out and try reach a common  ground ..

[Bertie Horak]

Will ask my pet hyena if she's willing to share. Her ancestors were in Oranjemund loooooong before us mortals...

[SandyB]

Actually  its  true  Bertie does have a pet hyena  in his back yard . saw  it  when  we visited last year ...

[Skinny]

@ Bob, point taken, appreciate the comments, I too have famiky in Israel and as explained in another topic about the family, so endeth this lesson. I appreciate the debate in all forms and as I said previously, man, ball etc. Just get very aggitated by some of the comments, but there again debate issues and get full story. Thank you for birthday wishes too. I really was not attacking you. The hyena is cowering in Bloemfontein, great burglar deterrent.
@Bertie, Thanks hide the hyena if Bob is around
@Sandy, arm chairs abound! Great link thanks and thanks for the calls you make my day. Love to the girls and Paul. Will  lightly from now on!

[SandyB]

And peace reigned in  Hyenaland again , and  Berties  pet hyena  no longer has to hide ... 

[Bertie Horak]

Yes, she's safe... will try and attach a photo to this post... her name is Dakota.

I too get a bit fuming a little too quickly with some issues close to my heart, especially when there's children, plants, animals and geriatrics involved (not naming any names here... he-he).
But debate is good, and the Oranjemund connection is there, let's keep the desert jewel spirit alive through our connection....
[ ** No animals have been hurt during the debate on this topic ** ]

[SandyB]

See I told you all so ..  shes one  very tame  and loving  hyena ,, actually an african hairless dog breed if I remember correctly...

[Cherry (Alcock)]

Oh there's the gorgeous Dakota - she really is a sweetie!  All good there Bertie?

[Bob Molloy]

Hyena in the back garden? Hmmm, can I have your street address Bertie?

[Paul (Pepe) Freemantle]

It's amazing how the Gemsboks for dinner turned out to be a Hyena topic LOL. all of you and happy to see their is concensus here. Bertie I am with you on children, animals and plants, they all very close to my heart. 

[Bertie Horak]

You wish, Bob. It's a smallholding, no public entrance, we have to be notified by visitors before we open the gates... hyenas too precious...