Appie Training Officers!

Carl Wrbka · January 05, 2009, 06:03:31 AM

Apparently even with a "watered down" maths exam, the pass rate did not impress. Two of the leading Universities in SA have allready warned "lenars" that they will not be lowering their standards to accomodate the lower matric standards. Bring it on...

Bertie Horak · January 05, 2009, 06:15:35 AM

Hope they stick to not lowering standards. I have unfortunately seen how the standards have dropped in some universities that I've been involved with over the last 10 years. I feel sorry for the "lenars", for their results depend on their teachers and the people who set the standards, not only of the subjects, but also the educators' standards. If circumstances are not ideal, unfortunately their standards and performance/results will be under par. So glad I'm finished studying (for now).

Carl Wrbka · January 05, 2009, 06:23:53 AM

Luckily I'm finishing off my studies this semester. Two more subjects and It's all over.

Bertie Horak · January 05, 2009, 09:38:57 AM

Vasbyt, Carl. I'll hold thumbs!

Carl Wrbka · January 05, 2009, 10:14:06 AM

Thanks Bertie.

Michael Alexander · January 05, 2009, 10:50:59 AM

Tsk! Tsk!... u okies have not kept up with the new standards.... U r spelling "lenars" wrong, it's spelt 'Lenaars"

SandyB · January 05, 2009, 12:53:28 PM

Close Mike .. but correct phonetic expression and writing is LenaaHs ,, the rrr disapears and becomes a barely perceptible H as in " I am a LenaaH " thats singular and many dimwits grouped together are LenaaHs

Michael Alexander · January 05, 2009, 12:58:12 PM

Nope! I theenk u r musstikan, isa thehr not a R in there? Assin LenaaHRs

Carl Wrbka · January 05, 2009, 01:00:00 PM

Leon Schuster couldn't have done it better... 202

Leon Sumter · January 05, 2009, 03:14:28 PM

Mike I somehow don't think there is an 'r' in there. Sandy has it correct as lenaah, but I think it could also sound like lenus.

Leon Sumter · January 05, 2009, 03:28:54 PM

Bertie, the uni's are probably going to have to reach a compromise by lowering standards, providing some sort of bridging course and lengthening their courses. If they do not do the above they will have a massive fallout in student numbers completing the courses and as a result will lose government sibsidies. On a political note they will also be accused of descriminating against previously disadvantaged. The Minister of Ed has already made noises about institutions of higher learning having to understand/compromise/accomodate/whatever the fresh batch of grade 12's. From a statistical point I would like to know what datum/reference line was used when the current raw marks were adjusted upwards, seeing as the curriculum is new and there is no historical data.

Bertie Horak · January 06, 2009, 02:49:20 AM

@ Leon - All true and interesting. Yes, I agree, some kind of compromise or adjustment will have to be implemented. Very soon the excuse of "previously disadvantaged" excuse cant be used anymore. I mean, I'm sure the Matrics of 2008 had all their schooldays in the "New SA".

Carl Wrbka · January 06, 2009, 06:06:03 AM

Good point there Bertie. A 2008 lenaah would have started school in 1996. There is no way they can use the "previously disadvantaged" bullshit excuse anymore.

SandyB · January 06, 2009, 09:46:11 AM

TOO BLOODY TRUE ... MY HACKLES RISE WHEN I HEAR THAT EXPRESSION BEING BANDIED ABOUT ...

Leon Sumter · January 06, 2009, 01:50:27 PM

true....in fact all the 'lenars' from 1996 onwards were 'disadvantaged' by the 'new government' wanting to destroy at enormous cost to the taxpayer, the 'previous government's' education system to score political points. The 'new government' was warned by all the educational experts at the time that (resource intensive) O.B.E will never and cannot work in South Africa. There were 4 to 5 curriculum changes over the years as the government desparately tried to get to grips with O.B.E and when it became apparent that O.B.E in its pure form could not be implemented successfully in SA the education authority started 'panelbeating' O.B.E and what we now have is 'messed up O.B.E' where incompetent 'lenars' have been declared competent at the end of each school year for the last 10 years. The 'paw paw has hit the fan' now at the Grade 12 exit level and we have roughly 300000 learners with messed up education who think they are ready for the harsh world of work, Technicon or even more ambitiously University. Reality will soon replace the euphoria of their Grade 12 Pass as these learners seek work or enter Tech or Uni. A very sad and tragic state of affairs indeed.