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Title: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: georg ruf jr. on April 09, 2008, 09:24:36 PM
I think Koos is the reincarnatin of Bahgwan.
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: Koos on April 10, 2008, 04:32:52 AM
Quote from: georg ruf jr. on April 09, 2008, 09:24:36 PM
I think Koos is the reincarnatin of Bahgwan.
A WHAT!
feedme

Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: georg ruf jr. on April 10, 2008, 05:23:09 AM
If you don't know Bahgwan, then google him. Before he died he called himself Osho.
Then look at Koos new pic...
barb1
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: Rhona on April 10, 2008, 04:25:51 PM
Koos' picture has changed again - this time to pinky and the brain............I googled Bhagwan and you are so right Jnr - definitely looked like the other picture............glad it's changed though; looked too creepy - maybe that is what was tapping on Bev's window in the wee hours of the morning!!!
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: Koos on April 11, 2008, 05:40:22 AM
Quote from: georg ruf jr. on April 10, 2008, 05:23:09 AM
If you don't know Bahgwan, then google him. Before he died he called himself Osho.
Then look at Koos new pic...
barb1
thanks for info jnr.
remind me never to play TEST THE TEAM with you.
any body know where that comes from.
:sorriso2:
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: Koos on April 11, 2008, 05:44:12 AM
Quote from: Rhona on April 10, 2008, 04:25:51 PM
Koos' picture has changed again - this time to pinky and the brain............I googled Bhagwan and you are so right Jnr - definitely looked like the other picture............glad it's changed though; looked too creepy - maybe that is what was tapping on Bev's window in the wee hours of the morning!!!
nice profile picture Rhona
let me guess.

you work in a crime lab
write reports all day.
you going to write a crime book about it all one day.
:sorriso2:
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: Diana Rudd (Boehme) on April 11, 2008, 06:09:46 AM
And you going to save the world Koos.
TEST THE TEAM oh yes that goes way back to another life time. Showing our age here.
cheers
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: georg ruf jr. on April 11, 2008, 06:10:55 AM
Quote from: Koos on April 11, 2008, 05:40:22 AM
Quote from: georg ruf jr. on April 10, 2008, 05:23:09 AM
If you don't know Bahgwan, then google him. Before he died he called himself Osho.
Then look at Koos new pic...
barb1
thanks for info jnr.
remind me never to play TEST THE TEAM with you.
any body know where that comes from.
:sorriso2:

Sometimes it helps in life, if you don't just bullsh** arround and know a couple of facts on things happening in the world. Most people oon this site are that way. That makes this site interesting. Take us as an example. Might help you grow up Koos.
At the moment you seem like a little impudant dog that likes playing hide and seek with it's master.
But then. It's intertaining playing that way with a dog at times...
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: Rhona on April 11, 2008, 06:28:59 AM
@ Jnr - don't let him push your buttons; it wil all come out in the wash

@ Koos - close but no biscuit
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: Diana Rudd (Boehme) on April 11, 2008, 08:09:21 AM
Quote from: Rhona on April 11, 2008, 06:28:59 AM
@ Jnr - don't let him push your buttons;
I agree Rhona, thats exactly what his doing to Our Boy Georg.  Mind the Bot Squad doesn't get you  Mr Koos, Pinkey, Brain or who ever.  fireworks1
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: Rhona on April 11, 2008, 10:30:07 AM
More Pinky than the Brain - but he sure knows how to wind up our Jnr
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: georg ruf jr. on April 20, 2008, 02:49:31 PM
I think Koos is hooked now too. He's posted about 8 times within one day.... Going wild hey?? 
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: Carl Wrbka on April 21, 2008, 07:25:11 AM
Guys like Koos feature on just about any forum nowdays. The best treatment is not to let his postings affect you personally, because thats what guys like this strive for. Sooner or later he will get tired and move on to another forum.

If I could attempt a guess, he's either a normal person with a mischievous streak, or in a worst case a person who had serious psychological problems in OM as a child and hasn't overcome these yet. It's a long shot, but the name Grant van Eden comes to mind?
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: georg ruf jr. on April 21, 2008, 07:38:23 AM
Did you read the topic Murder now Carl? As far as I remember Grant is in jail.
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: bobbysmith on April 21, 2008, 07:45:35 AM
georg jnr,someone posted that they met grants brother a couple of years back and was told that grant had been released but wasnt copeing very well on the outside,i cant think its grant pretending to be koos,i had a message from koos,he stated he knew me but all his info was incorrect,he is bound to slip up one day.
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: georg ruf jr. on April 21, 2008, 08:04:04 AM
Hi Bobby.
Don't be to worried about Koos bullsh***ng. I'm just enjoying the fun. Give him a chance. Maybe he's just homeless and needs our help.
:36_2_35:
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: Carl Wrbka on April 21, 2008, 10:09:26 AM
Grant is out. According to his brother.
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: Cheryl Quantrill (van Greunen) on June 23, 2008, 08:43:03 PM
Grant has been out of prison since about 1991 I think.  I met him at Zorena's funeral - he was living in Claremont at the time.
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: bobbysmith on June 23, 2008, 08:55:59 PM
hi cheryl,the van heerdens lived across the road from our family and next door to them was cherrie allcocks family ,we lived at e23/9th ,on the corner to the park,in what year were you in om.our family ,the smiths left in 1972 after the death of my father.i was born in om and left when i was 14
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: Bev Coates (Now Walker) on June 23, 2008, 10:37:24 PM
Dont know what ive missed on here yet about koos as ive not had time to catch up....but his koos defence.........i had a conversation with him/her in the early hours one morning,,,,,,he/she did seem really nice.....hang on.....id better go read what this is all about first eh .......
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: georg ruf jr. on June 24, 2008, 03:29:58 AM
Koos is "he" not "she".
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: Skinny on June 24, 2008, 11:46:00 AM
What happened? What did I miss? I know I have been asleep, but where has Koos been hiding Jnr?
Koos who have you P..d off this time?
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: Rhona on June 24, 2008, 05:31:49 PM
  image24 The real Koos is one of the good guys.....
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: bobbysmith on June 24, 2008, 06:20:03 PM
me thinks koos is a thief too,wheres my postings ,got a rat in the house ha ha
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: Rhona on June 24, 2008, 06:34:39 PM
He's no thief Bobby - he is shy......the strong silent type - play nice!  image21
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: bobbysmith on June 24, 2008, 07:36:10 PM
me still thinks his medical condition is MS,rhona do you test for that in your lab,multipal sclerossis,musticle sclerossis,bertie help me
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: georg ruf jr. on June 24, 2008, 07:37:32 PM
mullboddel whiskosses
How's that Bobby...  :emot19:
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: Rhona on June 24, 2008, 07:39:44 PM
Why don't we  e180 over to him, bundle him into the back seat, take him home and experiment on him until he starts to behave  image21
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: georg ruf jr. on June 24, 2008, 07:41:10 PM
Koos???
Poor boy.
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: bobbysmith on June 24, 2008, 07:44:49 PM
as promised,and i allways stick to my word,ALLWAYS being the operative word,my lips are hammered shut,[ps he needs medical attention for his MS]xx
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: Carl Wrbka on June 25, 2008, 01:12:54 PM
Quote from: Skinny on June 24, 2008, 11:46:00 AM
What happened? What did I miss? I know I have been asleep, but where has Koos been hiding Jnr?
Koos who have you P..d off this time?

Hi K. You know where KOOS has been hiding...lol
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: Bertie Horak on June 25, 2008, 03:27:59 PM
@ Bobby - I know a lot about the auto-immune disease MS, but I have absolutely NOOOO idea where this diagnosis comes from, or where the discussion is leading, so.......  I'd rather keep MY mouth shut!
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: Skinny on June 26, 2008, 02:25:18 PM
@Carl Sorry sweet pea have no idea, but you have been bery quiet, been hitting the books again? Or have you been investigating the bio fuel dossier that Sassol is hiding from every again?
Koos is obviously keeping a low profile like Zorro, heard Zorro is leaving Namibia shortly, hopefully he will keep posting from his new abode, and keep up to date with his new life.

Any way MS is caused by a lack of immunity from dirt, so moral of the story is let your kids run around naked and eat mud, dog food etc, stops them from getting MS true story.
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: Carl Wrbka on June 27, 2008, 07:43:48 AM
Hi K. What was that you said about assumptions again?...lol  Nothing floating around the underground grapevine yet about the bio fuel dossier. Will keep you posted on any developments. Tell Zorro to keep well and enjoy her new abode.
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: Zorro on June 27, 2008, 07:30:35 PM
Zorro is well thank you and she is not going anywhere.
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: Michele Alexander (Voden) on June 27, 2008, 07:34:49 PM
I thought Zorro was a guy's name!
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: Carl Wrbka on June 28, 2008, 05:54:19 AM
The plot thickens Michele. Maybe Zorro is an acronym? Maybe Koos is an acronym?

When I was in the hostel at Centaurus and phoned home every now and then, I would reverse the charges, being the poor hostel brak that I was. After spelling my surname to the operator a few times one day, she finally asks me: "Is dit al jou voorletters?". Sometimes you just cant win.
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: Michael Alexander on June 28, 2008, 05:57:01 AM
 :emot19:  hahaha , nice one Carl.... there were some real blondes working in the post office back then...
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: Carl Wrbka on June 28, 2008, 06:00:05 AM
The worst part was that they weren't even affirmative and thus didn't have a valid excuse fur their blondness...lol
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: SandyB on June 28, 2008, 08:00:24 AM
Quote from: Skinny on June 26, 2008, 02:25:18 PM

Any way MS is caused by a lack of immunity from dirt, so moral of the story is let your kids run around naked and eat mud, dog food etc, stops them from getting MS true story.

So much in agreement Kaye .. I get peed off seeing these adverts for Dettol on the box .. its wash your  "germ laden" floor with dettol  floor wash .. wash  your  " germ laden "  "smelly" body  with dettol ..  Its  wonder they dont  have a jingle  "  GERMS   GERMS  EVERYWHERE " its all  a guilt trip for commercial gain .. provided a person practices good basic hygeine  on oneself and in the home and  does not  over do it then one  bar genetic curveballs will be moderately to very  healthy  and have a functional immune system capable of recognising  invaders .. excess soaping with  germ killers strips the skin of its own natural  protective mantle.. As  Kids .. raised on breast milk .. played in the  dirt .. ran around barefoot .. played with our dogs  even sharing  a snack with our  best friend .. loving dog licks your face .. the worst you can get .. worms ? provided parents took action evry now and again us kids were healthy . result ?/  healthy adult .. yes we do get the odd thing like a bit of  flu .. some  years  nothing happens .. next time we hit .. anyhow getting mildly  sick is the bodies response to the invader ,, and also a sign  to step abck relax and allow the body to rest .. we all push too hard nowadays .. again a commercially driven  " illness   of  society "
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: georgswa (Georg Ruf) (RIP) on June 28, 2008, 08:06:58 AM
I beleive Zorro has dual sex properties

or do we call that hermaphrodite  image21

One day Adonis

next Aphrodite  Boobs
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: georgswa (Georg Ruf) (RIP) on June 28, 2008, 08:10:14 AM
Koos is something different........ i will think up something sometimes

But if he wants he can be a nice guy sometimes, but only if he wants

Full of beans you lot of Oranjemunders......
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: georg ruf jr. on June 28, 2008, 09:37:40 AM
PooooH!
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: Carl Wrbka on June 28, 2008, 10:42:13 AM
Where, where????? Carefull you dont step in it.
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: SandyB on June 28, 2008, 12:55:47 PM
Quote from: Carl Wrbka on June 27, 2008, 07:43:48 AM
Hi K. What was that you said about assumptions again?...lol  Nothing floating around the underground grapevine yet about the bio fuel dossier. Will keep you posted on any developments. Tell Zorro to keep well and enjoy her new abode.
Just my  2 $ worth .. BIOFUEL ..  a total crock of  shit ..   food crops  for fuel ??.. there are enough problems with pressure  on food crops and pricing and most of the food crops that would be used  are staples of the poor .. secondly the farming methods that  will have to be used to get amximum yield   are bad for the land .. furthermore  lots of  natural  land  with its own  ecosystem  would have to be used .. I remember flying over malaysia late 2006 .. there was just a fog  from natural forest being burnt to make way for   plantations of  Palm oil for biodiesel .. the consequence destruction of natural habitat ..   tons of CO 2 being pumped into the atmosphere ..  the peat  bed underneath  the natural forest being exposed and now releasing their carbon load into the atmosphere as well .. carbon negative  se voet !!!  ..  there  are still enough reserves of fossil around for  the clever scientists to now really get their buts in gear to develop the  next line of technology .. Hydrogen  is  first prize the cleanest and uses existing automotive technology  .. next is  utilisation of  waste and  resultant biomass  ( after all thats where  coal , oil , natural gas come from .. ??/  we aving an ongoing  spar with one of our big customers that wants to go biopolymer route .. compostable , guilt free  throw away your packaging .. in the first instance again its based on  food crops .. limited in aplication .. secondly we should be  in the recycle mode .. not guilt free  throwaway mindset ..  and despite misconception , most of our very useful plastic packaging  comes from the  waste stream of  refining oil and cracking coal for fuel  .. stats are  1- 2 %  total  fuel prodction results in  waste gasses  that would have been vented into the atmosphere ..  Ethylene , propylene , butene ,  hexene , pentene .. these and many others are  polymerised and turned into plastic ..  furthermore the most common plastic  polyethelene  comes from ethylene gas .. which is also liberated when most fruits ripen .. ??  obtaning such feedstock from biomass  with the correct  technology will have to become a reality .. anyhow there is  technology  to turn the now deemed " bad " plastic into  oxyphotodegradable / compostable  guilt free  revert back to carbon  ... ?? they not  even interested in that .. their thinking i so convoluted .. my mind boggles ..  for now  use whats available .. make its usage  more efficient .. and for mankinds sake  .. speed up the  development of  the newer available technology ..  Oh boy me rambling now ..  its now  10 $  worth ..
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: georgswa (Georg Ruf) (RIP) on June 28, 2008, 02:31:46 PM
@ Sandy

All those things sound to good to be true

All that forests burning, using food to make fuel etc......

That comes from the propaganda of people like our green party. Renewal energie is the word.....

They always think to have the answers but never think of the consequences

The biggest consequence is food shortage world wide. Never thought of that before demanding it

The green shout again.

The green demand wind power,

as soon as they built those machines other greens run against it......

Recycling is a good thing but has become mafia like structure.

We in germany separate like mad. most of it lands in incinerators again

We were told to reduce the rubish we produce to reduce the enviromental problem here in town.

We reduced by half

Consequence, the rubish collecting price doubled

Tha Plants have spare capacity and now import rubish from other countries

What is now the advantage for us here next to that incinerator ?????

Atomic Power plants are scheduled to be turned off

What is that consequence ????

Built new coal and gas Plants, but is that decreasing or increasing CO2 ????

I again ask the question i placed before......i want an answer from those so seemingly clever people

CO2 from cars !!!!!

What percentage of total CO2 stems from cars ?????

What percentage can be saved from that and how much does that account for the total reduction, i predict it is very little to the total CO2

Next on CO 2 i demand an explanation

My car uses 7 L fuel / 100 km = 7 KG liquid,

according to politics that produces 12 kg CO2 gas

Now if one wants to be clever, he should answer that. No one has done it so far in all forums i take part in.

But all repeat like parrots what the politicians say without knowing what they talk about

If Cars are the problem, i am mainly out of that.....

Satyrical remarks

I am not the problem, its all the others

if all stop driving,
heating
using electriciity

and only i do it, the problem is solved

That proves statistically ist not my fault

Its all you out there !!!!!

CO2 is produced from all you out there pooping, the cows do it all do it...

I like to know how much CO2 is produced by the big marathon in NY by all thos people breathing unecessary LOL
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: SandyB on June 28, 2008, 05:41:02 PM
Georg .. my hugest argument is the consequence of  food crops for fuel .. greens ?? so shortsighted .. it makes no diff .. recycling has advantages .. ie : landfill  space .. and reusing of resources .. but yes as you say its never what it comes out to be .. Our Hon Vali Moosa made the law that all shopping bags should be  40 Micron Min  instead of the  usual  18 and 15 Mic .. double the thickness .. its not source reduction ?/ the " golden" answer was   the consumer will pay for the bags hopefully curing  their wanton ways of littereing ..  meanwhile its a cultural thing  littering has not been  cured ..  .. after the initial shockwave  and loss of  many jobs in the packaging sector  people got used to paying ..  so that was not the answer ..  the  levy imposed on each bag sold was supposed to be  used to  set up empowering  recycling indusrty .. to date  that money has  fallen into a big hole due to the account not being  ringfenced and someone  actually made  responsible and accountable .. so it goes to pockets of corrupt officials .. 

but yes we have the  reality of a non renewable resource  that being fossil fuel drying up .. so yes those clever scientists must  with  haste find a way of  getting what I regard as first prize Hydrogen to an economically viable ,  safely stored and used  energy  source ..  Ok emmisions  water vapour ?/ so what the greens going to say then  .. " Hey  you  making the planet too  damp !!" O  woe is us  we will never win ..
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: georgswa (Georg Ruf) (RIP) on June 28, 2008, 08:01:57 PM
Hi Sandy

Nice thoughts always have a flaw

I dont have answers, i am just critisising all those decisions made from the stomach. It requires foresight if we do radical changes. What i mean with that is, carefully analyze what is the possible consequence before we go either way.

My feeling is, that is not done !!!!!

Now coming to hydrogene. We do have cars in town running on that.
If all cars run on that in our city, that may improve the air quality here

BUT

The question i have, what energy will produce that hydrogen.

People tend to think if we drive with hydrogen or with electric cars it makes to world pollution free. BS

It ist just transfering the problem to another corner of the world.

If CO2 is a world wide problem then the problems must be resolved world wide

Your example of burnt down forests fits nicely in what i say

Any Idea on my CO2 question that no one seems to answer. Hope we have a guy that knows chemical  idontknow

It upsets me when people just repeat things that are said by the powers to be without questioning.

I know many examples experienced with exactly that.

Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: SandyB on June 28, 2008, 08:39:20 PM
Georg precisely that .. there are no perfect answers at the moment ..  but better to have nice thoughts  or to explore  and discuss  than none at all ..  all i can see  is that hydrogen is the most viable ..  and all I am putting to the front is that the scientists should NOW be applying themselves to finding a way of  separating hydogen in an efficient manner .. current  methods   have an input energy penalty .. but  yes  good that they are  exploring and perfecting ..  in fact the major Oil  refiners should be looking there  , cos  in the near future  the world is going to be held to ransom by those countries that ahve   abundant oil  ,gas   and coal resources . look at the current  price increases .. who the .. is behind it ??   methods explored  of hydrogen separation ..  solar  mirror seems the most viable but dependent on our good friend the sun .. .. chemical  always leaves behind nasties ..    membrane separation .. not yet efficient  and an input power penalty ..

Ok  final  question .. what we going to do about the  greens when they complain that  burning  hydrogen is making the planet too damp ??  LOL
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: georgswa (Georg Ruf) (RIP) on June 30, 2008, 03:13:37 PM
No no no. leave Zorro in its place

No talk about mooving away from the present domicil

I guess soon the identity may be revealed

Koos is another Chamelion hiding behind different IPs

I am on the watch and will demask them sometimes, but then , who will entertain us ?????
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: Rhona on June 30, 2008, 08:35:46 PM
I will  image203  image203  image203
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: georg ruf jr. on July 01, 2008, 03:57:11 AM
Quote from: SandyB on June 28, 2008, 08:39:20 PM
Georg precisely that .. there are no perfect answers at the moment ..  but better to have nice thoughts  or to explore  and discuss  than none at all ..  all i can see  is that hydrogen is the most viable ..  and all I am putting to the front is that the scientists should NOW be applying themselves to finding a way of  separating hydogen in an efficient manner .. current  methods   have an input energy penalty .. but  yes  good that they are  exploring and perfecting ..  in fact the major Oil  refiners should be looking there  , cos  in the near future  the world is going to be held to ransom by those countries that ahve   abundant oil  ,gas   and coal resources . look at the current  price increases .. who the .. is behind it ??   methods explored  of hydrogen separation ..  solar  mirror seems the most viable but dependent on our good friend the sun .. .. chemical  always leaves behind nasties ..    membrane separation .. not yet efficient  and an input power penalty ..

Ok  final  question .. what we going to do about the  greens when they complain that  burning  hydrogen is making the planet too damp ??  LOL

Nobody knows which solutions are the right ones. We're all only human, so we make false deccisions.
The green movement in Germany, was only trying to waken people. o open their eyes about what is happening. They wanted to show at what point the man on the street is only an insrument for politics and money to make more money and have the power. They wanted people to see that they're living in a make-believe world. A world in which everything seems neat and nice. That it's all only a fasade. For eg. The nice athlete in his neat dress!!! Nike shoes are made by children for very little money with which they feed the whole family with. At he same time the Nike bosses have parties with Chamagne ect. and don't know who to handle heir billions.
Same when it comes to enviroment. Only rying to find better solutions for the future. Not just profit. Healthy envirement. "Social peace". Healthy living. Human righs. As you see. Nothing special. Just stupid ideas...
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: SandyB on July 01, 2008, 07:30:35 AM
My  Comment  abut  the  scientists  really  having to get moving ..  on the  news  this  Morning ..
OIL PRICE  pushed  up again  by  tension   in the  east  .. be it  what ever ,   whoever  my  ears  just  shut off ..
so  most of the  oil  sits  in  countries  or  regions  prone  to instability  of  whatever kind .. SOLUTION  ?/  develop that  other  energy  source   NOW  ..  they gonna  be  holding  us  to  ransom .. in  fact  are  holding the  world to ransom .. whats  crazy to me  is  what about  oil from america ? what about  oil from  Britain  . why does that  have to follow ??   what about  our  fuel  from coal ?? why does pricing  have to follow whatever  shit is going  down in the  middle east ??   apart  from  affecting the  man in the street ..  this is  hurting the poor .. ..

Your comment on the greens  Jnr .. yes a lot of truth there .. started out  as  a  voice of  conscience .. but then  gets a bite at  power  and  just  becomes  part of the  whole  crazy  scenario of the  politics ..
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: georg ruf jr. on July 01, 2008, 07:48:44 AM
That's to true Sandy. As I said, all are humans. Politicians can't realy be the better people.
The question is was kind of costitution do you have. Who controls the buggers up there in politics and in buiseness.
I think that's what Gordons topic is about. He dared to "control" the buggers up there and got a hell of a lot of trouble by them. The guys up there even managed to make the man on the street believe Gordon had done wrong and was a thief and liar.
In democracy things like that shouldn't happen. We should all feel responcable for things happening in sociaty and should be ready to make desisions that are not always comfortable but secure a good sociaty for our kids and gradchildren ect. that's all what the green thought is about.
Title: Re: Koos is NOT Enigma!
Post by: georg ruf jr. on July 01, 2008, 08:12:21 PM
I asked Gordon for his opinion.
He offered to post his statemen.

Dear Georg, you are quite right. In the words of the Honourable Judge, Justice Thirion had this to say about the likes of De Beers."Despite the trappings and facade of state control, all aspects of the mining and marketing of South West Africa diamonds remains firmle in De Beers' hands.This naivety and inability to conceive the possibility that a multinational corporation could stoop to any impropriety, pervades the approach of State representatives on the (Diamond) Board and is not conducive to the proper discharge of the watchdog functions which they have to perform. The pretence of the multinational corporation that it is incapable of abusing its power, convinces the unwary that there is no need for control" He went on to caustically say "The protestations of multinational companies that their activities result in bringing prosperity to the host country reminds one of the cynical observations of Jeremy Bentham (English Nineteenth Century moral philosopher).'I am a selfish man, as selfish as any man can be. But in me somehow or other, so it happens, selfishness has taken the form of benevolence.'" Said Thirion, "The reality is strikingly different. The overridding object of multinational companies is to make a profit and all other considerations are subordinate to this one aspect."
With best wishes
Gordon.   


Thanks Gordon