Cancer Rates of Oranjemunders!

[georg ruf jr.]

I think it's important to be able to make a decision for one self.
If you take the way people were  (are??) passed through check-point Charly in OM, then I ask you where is the respect for a human being. Profit is okay. But how about health. Of course you can make a decision on whether you work for a company like CDM Namdeb or what ever. But what's your option? The same happens when you have to decide where you live.
What I was trying to say further back, is it's a matter of being on your way. Nobody can say he has the solution. But it's a difference if you always accept what you've got, or if you have a destination (let it be utopia for now) and you're on your way there.
So if Germany decides to stop all nuclear power plants it may mean we'll be using Frensh nuclear power to a certain extent. But we're on our way to using solar, wind, water..... I'm sure other countries will be doing this too. So one day (next generations) will have a cleaner world. I think that's what it's all about.
I'm using a lot of words again. Sorry, my English isn't good enough...

[SandyB]

Florrie  ... I  tend  to  agree  ..   some  people  just  seem  to  have  genetic  curved  ball  thrown  at them ..  others  egg  on  disease  by allowing  stress  to  eat them up  alive  and  destroy  their  own  bodies  ability to  defend  itself   ..  the  list  is  endless  .. i  have  seen  people  with the healthiest  lifestyle  drop  dead  , and  some   with  the  worst  and  most  destructive lifestyle  defy " medical  science "  and  live  to  ripe  old  age  happy  as  pigs in  s...t    ...   Its  as  georg jnr says  about  choice  .. choice .. choice   and  even  that is  not  foolproof ...
I know  that  as  I slowly  biodegrade    I  have  to slow  down  on  my  vices   that  I  enjoy
( drinking , smoking ,  good  food etc )   so  as  to  be able  to  enjoy  them  into  a  ripe  old  age  , so  far  I  have  been  blessed  with  a  healthy  sort  of bullet proof  body  but  I  know it  is  not forever  so  try  to  let sensibility  slowly  creep  in  ...

[Michael Alexander]

This might sound a wee bit crude or disrespectful, but I always get a big kick outta it, in my mind, not in the general public.... when a fit, athletic nutter kicks the bucket with a heart attack..... a lot of the fitness fanatics nad magazines like to point out, that all us overweight people are gonna die young.... hogwash..... like Florrie says... it's in your Genes, (all 120kg of it!)

[Delia]

Then again there's also the belief which i go with that we create our reality with our thinking, be it conscious or sub-concious.  A brilliant book that backs that up : "The Power of the Subconscious Mind" by Joseph Murphy mind blowing stuff - was written in the 70's but has been newly released revised and updated. People have been known to cure their cancer purely by their thinking..............Louise Hay for one who is also one the leading metaphysical teachers around on healing your life.

[Michael Alexander]

Good point Delia, what about those tests they did on people, where they took 20 sick people, ( I don't remember with what), they gave 10 of them the correct medicine to heal them, and gave the other 10 fake medicine, without telling them... they all healed...makes one think.....the power of the mind....

[georg ruf jr.]

The topic started  with being "delivered" to cercomstances. That's why I wrote the above.
I'm sure Florri is write. At least in a way. How much percent is realy in our genes? Science teatches us a new every day.
You guys remember the former principle at ops Mr. Dickinson. I remember him preaching a healthy way in life. Sport, sleep, no drugs ect. As far as I heard he died of cancer before he retired.
I believe we should live in a way we feel comfortable with. And that's my decision.

[Delia]

Absolutely Mike - I remember that test with the placebos - I rest my case...........if only people realised how much healing power they hold within themselves....................

[Diana Rudd (Boehme)]

When your time is up,it's up. End of story, regardless of whether you lived a healthy life or not.So enjoy every minute of your life and cherish your loved ones.

[Delia]

@ Diana - makes me think of what my boet always says - the stress of trying to live a healthy lifestyle will kill you quicker than anything else so just go ahead and enjoy life.......

There was a girl from windhoek at hostel with me who's grandmother lived to the ripe old age of 90+ smoking 90 a day till the day she died???

[georg ruf jr.]

Winston would say with a cigar in his mouth why he got so old: "No sports". His decision.
Take it as YOU please.

[Diana Rudd (Boehme)]

Whatever

[Florrie van Zyl (Muir)]

Mike I hate to admit this but I also tend to get a warped satisfaction out of it. I tend to be one of the laziest people on earth when it comes to exercise so I also feel less guilty when a healthy person kicks the bucket. Almost like seeing the most beautiful girl in the school with a fat pimple on her face, just makes you feel life isn't that unfair after all.
Delia, you are right about mind over matter. They once incorrectly diagnosed someone with cancer and gave him 6 months to live. He died 6 months later and when they did the autopsy, found that it had been a mistake, he never had cancer. They also took 3 elderly men out of 100 that had to have knee ops where they make small incisions and clean out bit of bone etc. With 3, they gave them anaesthetic, did the small incisions but then played the video with sound etc, asif they were operating, but didn't do any actual operation. The 3 recovered as well as the other 97 and wouldn't believe it when they were told months later that they had never been operated on.

[Michael Alexander]

What about the broken heart theory..... a man loves his wife for 40 years, one of them dies.... then the other dies a few months later.... not from anything physical... but a broken heart....

[Barbara Eia (Brownless)]

h Mike tell me about it ,,,that has just happened to a coule in my extended family,
My sister -in-law's uncle died, they all went to the funeral in scotland...left in the evening and the next morning her mother got a phone call, from her nephew, to say the wife was found dead at 8.30 that morning....They all went back to scotland the following week......Tragic but it happens they had been together for such a long time, she couldn't live without him.

[Diana Rudd (Boehme)]

Michael I truly believe that. What also happens in the elderly is that the grief pushes your your blood pressure up,if not seen to can kill you. I believe this is the logic behind the broken heart theory,saw it with my mom this last year after my dad died.She ended up in hospital due to blood pressure and had never had a problem with it before.