SUIWER AFRIKAANS

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Joyners

October 30, 2007, 01:04:31 PM
I have been reading the Afrikaanse Grappe! 

Now someone in Oranjemund was once heard to remark..........................

Ek praat net suiwer Afrikaans. 

Suiwer Afrikaans?

Ja, moenie jou Afrikaans met jou Engels OPMIX nie.

I see with great delight that it is still done!

Lekker "opmix".

Tannie (sadly) Sylvia.

darryl weidemann

#1
October 30, 2007, 01:19:18 PM
ja my afrikaans is also sommer baie good
of course i am in shape...i'm round

Dalene Steenkamp (Coetzee)

#2
October 30, 2007, 03:35:42 PM
That's the reason why I never claim to be fully bilingual.  Sometimes it's the spelling that forces me to mix and sometimes it's the lack of vocabulary.  Face it - in no other country in the world they can gooi like we do - and still understand each other.  I mean 'nice' just does'nt have the same meaning as 'lekker',  check hierso gets the attention much better than kyk hier etc.

Ag no, way too much effort to keep to the Suiwer side.  Excellent for those who do - got nothing against them - it's a skill to be admired.
Life becomes harder for us when we live for others, but it also becomes richer and happier. Friendship is a sheltering tree.

To be clever enough to get a great deal of money, one must be stupid enough to want it.

Those who bring sunshine to the lives of other cannot keep it from themselves.

barb (Fry)

#3
October 30, 2007, 04:20:54 PM
Dalene, or anyone in the know of suiwer or other wise afrikaans here's a question
to settle a academic dispute btw my vrystaater former husband and myself, (remember a woman is always right), no seriously I would like to know really............ 

the differance between besoek and kuier.

I always understood that a besoek was short and purposeful

to kuier was to hang about (overnight or more) possibly to the point of out staying your welcome.
When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. Jimi Hendrix

Dalene Steenkamp (Coetzee)

#4
October 30, 2007, 04:36:42 PM
So right you are - clever we lotta women.

To explain it like this :  the preacher - dominee goes round in town from home to home to visit members of the congregation so, he is doing 'huis besoek'  -  there's something very, very wrong if the dominee is doing a huis-kuier!  Or you 'besoek' someone in hospital - you don't kuier them.

Now, when we lotta ex O'munders pitch at Mike an Michele's place for a reunion, have a jol, empty their fridge and freezer, make their dog's go stay with the SPCA willingly, and eventually find a free "FLY TO ANY DESTINATION OF YOUR DREAMS" ticket on our breakfast plates after two weeks or so -  then is was a kuier.  Not a very big one,  sort of just got to the first layer - many more to come, type of kuier.

Is this where you can live out your wildest childhood taunt again with that 'We-la-ke-pela , told you so' tune?
Life becomes harder for us when we live for others, but it also becomes richer and happier. Friendship is a sheltering tree.

To be clever enough to get a great deal of money, one must be stupid enough to want it.

Those who bring sunshine to the lives of other cannot keep it from themselves.

barb (Fry)

#5
October 30, 2007, 05:45:31 PM
Ja nee, I knew I was spot on, and me with my vrot afrikaans and him with his "please don't try to praat the taal" -

to explain, my parents were Eng and Scots so us kids were 1st generation Souf afrikans, I only really spoke the taal when I went nursing,
so learned to speak with a Kaap accent, due to the patients being gangsters - you don't want to hear me it's not pretty.
Thank you, so much for that beautiful analogue - I feel M & M are getting worried about the promised reunion - I think the present residents are going to leave town and rent their houses out at exgaggerated prices for the period.
When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. Jimi Hendrix

Diana Rudd (Boehme)

#6
October 30, 2007, 09:42:22 PM
Ek moet sekker probeur om die taal te praat.Ek sien hier ereens is daar baie van Pretoria gepraat.My seun Glen het onlangs soontoe getrek,hy bly op Silver Lakes of so iets.Silver iets in elkgeval, waar dit is weet ek glad nie.Ek was nooit in Pretoria.Dis nou n Engelsman wat probeer slim vees met die taal ;D
O.P.S -1969, Springfield Convent -1970, Holy Cross Convent-1972., Centaurus-1974
I got around.

Dalene Steenkamp (Coetzee)

#7
October 30, 2007, 09:57:16 PM
En jy kry dit nogal mooi reg!  You go girl.  Ek het darem in my lewe met die Engels gevorder van "throw some tea in for me, please" tot "would you pour.....".  Die dag toe ek in Oranjemund geland het, het ek net geweet daar is 'n taal soos Engels en moes dit maar noodgedwonge leer praat.  Ek dink ek het intussen so ietwat verbeter  -  kom so op 'n verstaanbare manier reg hier tussen al die klomp Ingilse mense.  Gelukkig hoor ek nie hoe julle lag vir die spelling en verkeerde woorde wat inglip nie, maar julle kan in elk geval nie met so droog-bek humor en ernstige gesprekvoering aldag sit nie - daar moet mos 'n Afrikaanse poging tot Engelsmagtigheid wees om die spanning te breek.  Doen so voort met jou poging - ons sal voortlees en handeklap vir aanmoediging.
Life becomes harder for us when we live for others, but it also becomes richer and happier. Friendship is a sheltering tree.

To be clever enough to get a great deal of money, one must be stupid enough to want it.

Those who bring sunshine to the lives of other cannot keep it from themselves.

Diana Rudd (Boehme)

#8
October 30, 2007, 10:07:02 PM
Ek het in Ficksburg vir n jaar gebly en moet gou leer om die taal te praat.Jy throw maar a English word in when you get stuck.Ek het die ou droppie baie geniet.Snaaks genoeg het my oudste met n regte egte afrikaaner getrou he speaks english deliciously.My seun staan op trou met n afrikaans se meisie van Standerton af. So die taal gaan nou in ons familie se blood wees
O.P.S -1969, Springfield Convent -1970, Holy Cross Convent-1972., Centaurus-1974
I got around.

Dalene Steenkamp (Coetzee)

#9
October 30, 2007, 10:24:34 PM
Ek self was nog net een keer in Ficksburg - het opgetree daar tydens die Kersiefees.  Die lekkerste aspersies ge-eet en natuurlik voor gekuier op die likeur.  Dit was in 2002, so ek kan nie meer lekker onthou nie, maar daar was 'n plek "Glass..." iets, waar ons goed gekuier het.

Wat die Afrikaanse bloed in die familie betref  -  hier het jy nou die oefenveld gekry om die skoonkinders mee te verras.  Kan hulle darem aan die einde van die dag se hulle skoonma weet nie net van 'high noon tea and cucumber slices' nie  -  sy's 'n Afrikaanse Engelsvrou.

Ek se nag  -  het nog so  90km om huistoe te ry  -  so tussen al die gesels deur kry ek darem al my tonne werk gedoen.  Is in my kantoor op Kuruman - moet nog Kathu verby tot so 17km buite Olifantshoek - dis waar ons plaas is.

G'nite.

PS:   Post the wedding date for your son on the calendar.
Life becomes harder for us when we live for others, but it also becomes richer and happier. Friendship is a sheltering tree.

To be clever enough to get a great deal of money, one must be stupid enough to want it.

Those who bring sunshine to the lives of other cannot keep it from themselves.

Riaan

#10
October 31, 2007, 11:32:34 AM
Een of ander Afrikaanse bliksempie het al vir my gesê ek kan maar Engels praat as ek wil!!  Ek is Afrikaans!   ;D

Dalene Steenkamp (Coetzee)

#11
October 31, 2007, 12:49:11 PM
Wel gestel daar, Riaan.  Moet iets in die lyn van 'n aanstellerige, klein-mannetjie sindroom, ego-sentristiese, verborge minderwaardigheid, komplekse eenvoud van 'n bliksem wees as jy hom 'n bliksempie noem.  Ons gebruik die taal Engels uit noodweer en selfverdediging, nie as dekmantel vir ons sielkundige afwykings nie. Ons praat Engels as ons moet en omdat ons kan:  sommige doen dit baie goed, maar net omdat ons wil? Ons besig ons eie Afrikaans met trots, al verkrom en verdraai ons hom soms, al spoeg en plak ons so iets van elke ander taal in hom vas, ons is Afrikaans.

Verstaan die konsep goed - ek het niks tee op Engels as voertaal nie, so  ook het ek geen vooropgestelde persepsies rakende die persoonlikheid van Engelssprekende persone nie.  Ek het hartsvriendinne wat Engels is en met groot moeite 'n paar Afrikaanse woorde kan praat - die lys kan eindloos raak.  Ek is eens met jou oor die bliksempie se uitlating.

Hoera!  "Ek hou van 'n man wat sy man kan staan.........."  Die beiteltjie.   
Life becomes harder for us when we live for others, but it also becomes richer and happier. Friendship is a sheltering tree.

To be clever enough to get a great deal of money, one must be stupid enough to want it.

Those who bring sunshine to the lives of other cannot keep it from themselves.

Diana Rudd (Boehme)

#12
April 23, 2008, 06:14:24 PM Last Edit: April 23, 2008, 06:16:24 PM by Diana Rudd (Boehme)
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O.P.S -1969, Springfield Convent -1970, Holy Cross Convent-1972., Centaurus-1974
I got around.

SandyB

#13
April 23, 2008, 07:24:10 PM
Yes .. Afrikaans .. a really  nice easy and  expressive taal ... I went to  Hugenote Hoerskool ( we  kept on stealing the umlaut from the E ) it was primarily afrikaans .. 3 -4 afr classa to one english per standard .. i used to get 95 % + for the taalbond ( higher ) exam  I used to do it for the fun of it .. .. i  do write and speak sort of fluently in afr but with the funny english accent which raises some  grins .. and as barb did i have become pretty good at the cape spanish version of the language .. sometimes my staff ask me ' wher do you  get that word from ? "  Hah !  listen and learn ...
To see  sometimes  requires that you  first believe .

barb (Fry)

#14
April 23, 2008, 07:37:03 PM
Ja I love the afrikaans taal, especially now that  I have a sense of national identity living in a foreign country.  Don't get to talk much, but still have conversations with my ex - only when needing privacy, from out common interest our son who has a increasing interest in learning the taal if only to understand what we say, cos he knows we use it to talk about him behind his back,,,,,,,,,,
what fun.
When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. Jimi Hendrix
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