austrian father

[Chris Macpherson]

this insane @@@@er doing that to his own DAUGHTER. how sick and perverted can a human being be to do something like that??? as they say it takes all kinds to make the world but this is absolutley sick and disgusting!!!??

i dont even think the bastard must even go to trial,even animals dont behave like that. many people say  they are behaving like animals, animals dont do behave like that in the first place.

it happened in AUSTRIA  and again like back in 1939 we have another bloody austrian trying to prove himself as the big shot. he gives all the german people a bad name because of his views.
if i was on jury duty i would find the biggest dirtiest fishhooks and push it up his @@@@###$$^^& and make him screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeem for mercy which obviously fall on deaf, very#####ing ears. listen i think iam getting to carried away with  my feelings obout this lowlife ok!!!

any responses from u guys out there who feel the same way i do??????????

[Florrie van Zyl (Muir)]

I agree with you totally. Heard today that he is a repeat offender too. What p...es me off is that his wife didn't know anything. B......t, how can someone hide something like that for so may years. Hang the wife too.

[Michael Alexander]

His wife knew...she had too..... "Oh have you seen our daughter today?"..."No..dear, I think she went down to the cellar!"......"Have you seen our daughter this month?"..."No Dear, I think she went down to the cellar!"....."Have you seen our daughter this year?"......"No Dear, I think she went down to the cellar!"...... "Have you seen our daughter this decade?", ....."No Dear, I think she's on Maternity leave.....(again!)...down in the cellar"....... Bollocks!!!!!!!!!! She knew...She had...to........what were sunday family lunch's like?

[Patricia Lotte]

What's worse is that his lawyer is trying to avoid trial pretending that the father (don't think he deserves that title) is mentally impaired and should therefore not be held responsible for his acts. Moreover, if he does go to trial, his maximum sentence would be 15 years ... that's nothing after the 25 years of suffering his daughter's gone through ...

[Michael Alexander]

@Patricia...how would the Arab States handle this one?

[georg ruf jr.]

I haven't a clue what laws are like in Austria, but this is the wa it goes in Germany.
The highest detention is 15 years. If you are refered to as dangerous or mentaly ill, you will land up in a forensec psychiatry , to make sure you can't hurt anybody any more. I know I'm the "outsider" in these topics, but I enjoy the controverse discutions here. So here's my point of veiw again:
I believe, there is just as much good or bad in every one of us. To me, it's an esoteric way of trying to understand life, people what ever. As far as I#ve understood, it's also the christian way: "Jesus loves you all" is what I was taught in sunday school. So somehow, we are al alike and all loveable.
If you look at history, you'll find violance as a major part of society. Wars, opression by kings ect... Society tries to find ways of regulating life, which means find ways everybody can "live" agression without harming society. This can be by doing sports or what ever... In the end, it's only an attempt. We're all only human. So, we don't realy know how to handle everything.
To me it seems, as if the urge to be violant accumulates within some people. As if the son of a b*** is the person that lives his aggresion for us all. For us, who have learned to be "descent" citezins of society.
Just think of what war does to many people. Normal healthy young men turn into killing machines that kill just to kill for personal satifaction. Raping?? ect...
Now what makes us so angry? Are we scared the same could happen to us or our siblings? Or are we (deep down in "underconcions" hope that's english) some how " jeolous because this guy does forbiden things and we're trying so hard not to break the laws?
I don't know. All I know for sure, is that we get strong negative feelings when we hear these stories.
To me it's only revenge when you want him hurt or hanged. Feelings I'd have myself, when I'd see my family being hurt.
But again I ask you all. What's our intention? We want a safe and human society.

[Carl Wrbka]

Check out more comments on this topic under the "Rape in OM" thread. It's quite a controversial topic.

[Carl Wrbka]

this insane @@@@er doing that to his own DAUGHTER. how sick and perverted can a human being be to do something like that??? as they say it takes all kinds to make the world but this is absolutley sick and disgusting!!!??

i dont even think the bastard must even go to trial,even animals dont behave like that. many people say  they are behaving like animals, animals dont do behave like that in the first place.

it happened in AUSTRIA  and again like back in 1939 we have another bloody austrian trying to prove himself as the big shot. he gives all the german people a bad name because of his views.
if i was on jury duty i would find the biggest dirtiest fishhooks and push it up his @@@@###$$^^& and make him screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeem for mercy which obviously fall on deaf, very#####ing ears. listen i think iam getting to carried away with  my feelings obout this lowlife ok!!!

any responses from u guys out there who feel the same way i do??????????

Hi Chris. Very few people actually know that Hitler was an Austrian. I still face the prejudice till today from the "uninformed" masses in SA. When people hear I'm from Germany, it's not very long before I get greeted with "Heil Hitler". It's just water off a duck's back.

[Patricia Lotte]

@Patricia...how would the Arab States handle this one?

Well, to be quite honest, I think he wouldn't even be tried. As the father, he has every right over the women in his family. Father, brother, husband ... they know better then the women so what ever they do is in the interest of the women (of course). I remember an article I read in a local newspapers several years ago. The court cassation here ruled that a man was allowed to beat his wife to keep her in the right path as long as he didn't break andy bones or leave scars (physical scars ... coz emotional scars aren't visible). The article made my blood boil.

[Michael Alexander]

 

[SandyB]

Yup ??  My mind boggles .. did  you  ever  watch  the  movie Osama .. its   was about afghanistan  when the taliban  took hold  ??

[Patricia Lotte]

Yes, read it. You should read the book Mayada by Jean Sasson. All about a woman jailed in Irak under Saddam Hussein's reign ... what a bunch of bastards ...

[SandyB]

Yes, read it. You should read the book Mayada by Jean Sasson. All about a woman jailed in Irak under Saddam Hussein's reign ... what a bunch of bastards ... you  mean  watched  it ??

[georg ruf jr.]

@Patricia...how would the Arab States handle this one?

Well, to be quite honest, I think he wouldn't even be tried. As the father, he has every right over the women in his family. Father, brother, husband ... they know better then the women so what ever they do is in the interest of the women (of course). I remember an article I read in a local newspapers several years ago. The court cassation here ruled that a man was allowed to beat his wife to keep her in the right path as long as he didn't break andy bones or leave scars (physical scars ... coz emotional scars aren't visible). The article made my blood boil.

This get's close to what I'm talking about.
Things in life are often a matter of where you stand. I'm sure we all agree, that this is no way we want to live. It's against our idea of justice.
We all come from times in which justice either worked this way or at least in a simular way. Our ancestors went out to change their attetude to what their belief was in many ways. God, justice, society... What ever. The state you/we live in is felt to be right, because it's what makes us feel secure.

[georg ruf jr.]

Just checked the papers.
This guy planed all 6 years in advance. He bought a house and started building an L form to it putting a in a cellar which nobody noticed.
This cellar was secured with 8 doors. no wonder you couldn't hear anything and nobody could flee.
His idea was to ground a new family. While his "new family" was dwelling downstairs he started to enlarge the cellar. enlargement from 35 to 55 qm.