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[Bertie Horak]

To me - the education system just doesn't make sense, frankly, it sucks!  I am by no means an educator, but have been helping a lot of kids with projects/understanding their subjects, especially maths, science, biology, chemistry, physics, etc.  When I see the projects they have to do, I can not see how those fit into the bigger picture of "getting de lenars rea-dy for de futoor". 
I have also seen that the BASICS of the science subjects are neglected to make place for "outcome-based" education, or "applied" subjects where the subject is meant to be helpful for a lenar going in a specific direction.   - Bullsh*t, science is science and Newton is still to be proven wrong - without a good foundation of the science subjects, you can not expect to breeze through the higher grades and tertiary studies.  I'm sure this is true for other subjects too.

[SandyB]

Leon I agree , more so  the lenaahs  have been crippled by the new regime ,, sure the past system was  not the best for the " disadvantaged "  but now they actually crippled  by the  mess ups that they wont admit to .. even  Robert Mugabe before he became  Mad Bob  had an accelerated education programme  to   try benefit his people after independence ..
Mmm  maybe there method in their madness ,, maybe they just repeating what the bad old nats did  " hou hulle stupid " ??  uneducated  voters are a bonanza  at election time  ?? promise them anything  and they believe cos they cant make educated decisions .. not that  thats a gaurantee , but  hey lets try it ...

[Leon Sumter]

You're correct Sandy. The SA communist party rides on the back of the ANC and the idea is to cultivate masses of dumb 'comrades' who are voting fodder which keep the top 'elite comrades' in the lap of luxury.

[SandyB]

Mmm  yes we onto  their  game  hey  ... see what  adequately  educated  can do for one ???

[Carl Wrbka]

On the News this morning: DA politicians uncovered a directive sent to certain schools by the Department of Education to "elevate" their 2008 matric results...

Yes, we're definately onto their game Sandy. Unfortunately the "dumb comrades" still outnumber us 100:1 so it looks like this problem aint gonna go away soon.

My advice is to obtain some sort of Tertiary qualification that still means something internationally. A South African matric is worth squat overseas at the moment. In Germany, for example, it is recognized as their equivalent of Std 8.

[Patricia Lotte]

You're right Carl. When I went to law school in Paris, they recognised my SA matric certificate without hesitation. Nowadays, they would send me back to school before even considering my application.

[Leon Sumter]

In todays Cape Times.....markers were instructed to adjust marks upward of Mathematics and Science subjects I ask you !.

so after the 'upward adjustment' if a learner gets at least 30% for 3 subjects and at least 40% for 3 other subjects and fails one subject the learner 'passes'.

Can you imagine the standard of education of this learner.

Well unfortunately for the education department all this 'gekonkelry' of the Grade 12 results will be exposed very soon in workplace, College, Technicon and University.

The learners have been cheated.

[Leon Sumter]

Here's the actual report in todays Cape Times;

Claims that markers, including those in the Western Cape, were instructed to deliberately inflate the marks of "weak" matric pupils have been reported to the DA, the party says.
Two independent sources had approached the DA claiming that marks : had been inflated on instruction from department officials, said Desiree van der Walt, DA deputy spokeswoman for education.
In one instance, she said, a DA councillor who is a former teacher reported complaints from colleagues in the Western Cape who had marked maths and science papers. They had allegedly been told to increase the marks of weaker candidates - from 20% to 30% - to ensure a pass.
Van der Walt said a teacher involved in marking history papers claimed the department had instructed teachers that no pupil might receive a mark of zero out of 30 for an essay. If they were able to produce just-one fact, the pupils had to be:-, given a mark of nine out of 30, which would almost allow; them to pass.   
"The marks of every one of this teacher's papers were later raised by the Chief Moderator," Van der Walt said.
If the allegations were true,.. the credibility of the exams had been compromised.
The DA called on Education. Minister Naledi Pandor to institute an independent inquiry into the exams.   
Van der Walt asked teachers,, and officials who had been instructed to inflate marks to contact the DA.
The national Education Department's Penny Vinjevold, , said the department had given no instructions to markers

[Clive Symes]

Looks like I've beeb MIA for a while here, am in agreement with what been said, however I submit that it is all an American / British plan to subjugate the African masses.

Pulled this off the internet, "Verb 1. larn - gain knowledge or skills; "She learned dancing from her sister"; "I learned Sanskrit"; "Children acquire language at an amazing rate"

Why spell it LARN then in the next breath use the correct spelling as learn ????

Sandy has it spot on " method in their madness"

The ANC will continue pandering to the masses instead of giving them a chance at a half decent education, as long as they have uneducated "adult activists" in schools preventing those that want to learn from doing so, they are going to have all the voting fodder they need.

On the up side, it is encourging to see those kids whose parents have seen fit to send them to good schools, achieve. We need to beleive that the small minority that have had the opportunities to realy achieve will be able to swing this country around in time. Not all the youngsters out there are blind to whats going on, those that achieve will enter all fields and hopefully make good decisions for the country.

Those the underachieve, need work and literacy programs that should be supported by local and central goverment, building & improving infrastructure while receiving on the job training as welders, steelfixers, Builders tradesmen etc ( MINIMUM 5 years)

[Leon Sumter]

quite correct Clive. Our only hope is for the 'small informed minority' who are aware of this massive deception to step up to the plate and say that enough is enough.

Then of course the low salaries/wages the masses will be earning at the menial tasks they are only capable of performing will also the truth home eventually, unless of course they are utterly brainwashed by their comrades.

[toonfandangl]

Hello to you all.

In the end of the 60-70 at the end of the year the Apprentices  used to go through some sort of ritual.
It could have been that they were awarded or selected to become an apprentice not sure.

They would get drunk and have the hair shaven, I suppose that this practice has ended 

A few of them were Bloody stupid they came to the pool and created a danger to the other people that were their